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This is from Avidyne current website showing the EX5000 and Skytrax 100 being compatible
https://avidyne.com/products/978/index.html
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Fast forward 5, 10, 15 years when the G1000, EX5000, etc. integrated panels are at end of life from the manufacturer. What do you do with your 172S w/ G1000? Answer, you will have to upgrade it, but to what? There will need to be an STC to install something else, but what? and from whom? Well, for the high number production models like 172, SR22, there may be an upgrade from the manufacturer. For others, it will require a 3rd party STC from some business who has a) determined there is a business case for investment, b) gone through the STC process, and c) actually ships and installs these upgrades.

My fear is that with the much fewer number produced airframes, there may be no option and therefore, the airframe becomes junk.

We will have to wait and see what happens, but even if you can upgrade your G1000 172, are you going to spend $50-$100k in a complete upgrade/replacement of the integrated panel IN ONE SHOT?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ibraham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2018 at 7:03pm
Any update on the 8.2 approval from Cirrus? The last time I called Tech support I was informed that they are working with Cirrus for the approval.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ibraham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2018 at 7:04pm
Any update on the 8.2 approval from Cirrus? The last time I called Tech support I was informed that they are working with Cirrus for the approval.
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Is R8.2 available for the EX600?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Plunger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 2018 at 10:25am
I need to send my EX 500 into Duncan for some repairs and software upgrade but don't want to send the unit to Duncan until I know that they can do the 8.2 software upgrade. Can anyone tell me when this new software will be released. 
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Any updates on release 8.2 for Cirrus aircraft?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ronl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2018 at 10:46am
I asked Avidyne at Oshkosh 2 days ago. Same response. 8.2 is done and we're just waiting on Cirrus to approve it. Should only be a few weeks. Ugh! Same song, 15th verse.
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Originally posted by Ibraham Ibraham wrote:

Any updates on release 8.2 for Cirrus aircraft?
OK, we've managed to find a way to get around the TC issues.  Here's a statement from the service  bulletin:

This service bulletin describes the installation of software, which has been developed with a DO-178B level D compliant process. Avidyne has assessed this update to be a minor alteration allowing performance of this service bulletin by appropriately rated repairman/repair station with a logbook entry.

Bottom line is that you can get this done now without going to Cirrus.  Call or write to sales to get all of the details.  sales@avidyne.com or 800-AVIDYNE.
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Steve, besides Cirrus aircraft, will Columbias also be eligible for the R8.2 update?

-Larry
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Steve,
Thank you for the great news, we have been waiting for this for 2 years!
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Steve, can you confirm the under 8.2 that ADS-B traffic and weather, received from a Garmin 345, will correctly display? I’m happy to test this if it hasn’t already been tested, but I don’t want to purchase it until I know that it will work in my configuration.

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Originally posted by LarryPetro LarryPetro wrote:

Steve, besides Cirrus aircraft, will Columbias also be eligible for the R8.2 update?

-Larry
Since it's a minor alteration, aircraft type is not a factor.  The service bulletin applies to MFDs with part numbers 700-00004-XXX or 700-00030-X0X.

There are factors to consider before upgrading.  8.2 does not support MLX770 or WSI Inflight Datalink.  Also, we recommend that if you have a Garmin 4xx/5xx connected via 232, that you switch to a 429 connection (but not mandatory).  Details are in the service bulletin, you should contact sales and/or tech support to get the details.
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Originally posted by Melohn Melohn wrote:

Steve, can you confirm the under 8.2 that ADS-B traffic and weather, received from a Garmin 345, will correctly display? I’m happy to test this if it hasn’t already been tested, but I don’t want to purchase it until I know that it will work in my configuration.

Confirmed.  Wx will come over 232.  Traffic over 429.
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Steve -  I have an L3 Lynx NGT9000+ that already displays traffic (TAS and ADS-B merged) on my MFD with v8.1.  And I would like to keep XM weather displayed on the MFD as well, and would not want to replace it with ADS-B weather.  So for me, those enhanced v8.2 capabilities are not really beneficial.  Would an upgrade to v8.2 provide my MFD any other benefits or improvements over 8.1, other than ADS-B weather and traffic?
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Originally posted by Catani Catani wrote:

Steve -  I have an L3 Lynx NGT9000+ that already displays traffic (TAS and ADS-B merged) on my MFD with v8.1.  And I would like to keep XM weather displayed on the MFD as well, and would not want to replace it with ADS-B weather.  So for me, those enhanced v8.2 capabilities are not really beneficial.  Would an upgrade to v8.2 provide my MFD any other benefits or improvements over 8.1, other than ADS-B weather and traffic?
No, there were no other significant changes.
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Has anyone upgraded their EX-5000 to 8.2? If so, what was the process and are you happy with the upgrade.
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+1!   Anyone tried 8.2 yet?

I was wondering if, with 8.2, its possible to choose (I assume via the configuration of the MFD) whether you continue to receive and display XM weather with 8.2 or, instead pull weather and traffic from your Skytrax?

Can you possibly configure the MFD to take weather from XM but traffic (only...) from the Skytrax?

Thanks!!

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Here's the official press release regarding 8.2 and ADS-B support.  Being insiders, you guys knew about this long ago so it's not necessarily news.  A list of FAQs has also been published.

FYI, for EX500/600, the software is actually referred to as release 4.2 and has it's own list of FAQs.
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Update on 8.2, it seems it is suspended until some bugs are fixed!

From
"Avidyne Tech Support"<techsupport@avidyne.com>
Good Afternoon,
The 8.2 software update is very new. When it was sent out to a few people there was a glitch found in the software. Avidyne is currently working on the software to fix all problems and that is why it is temporarily suspended. At this moment we do not know when the update will be released again but fingers crossed it will be next week. 

Sorry for all the confusion!

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I looked into this late Friday after Ibraham's post.  Turns out that when a large volume of weather data is received over ADS-B, the map can become disabled and the tab will turn yellow.  A SIL has now been published regarding the situation.

Engineering is already looking into the situation, so hopefully a solution will be available very soon.


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Steve

Thanks for the update.



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AviSteve stated, "While release 8.2 will display ADS-B traffic, it will continue to display the old style traffic icons.  That's because the MFD is a level D box and the TSO requires level C in order to display the new symbology."

I'm unsure precisely what is covered by "old style traffic icons" and "new symbology." And, I'm considering installation of an L3 NGT-9000, or a GTX345 in order to display TIS-B (and FIS-B) on my R8.2 EX5000.

To anyone on the Forum with an EX5000 and either of those two ADS-B units, I'd appreciate if you could post a picture of the display of an ADS-B OUT target on your EX5000.

Thanks.
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The MFD Pilot Guide shows the traffic icons it displays in Table 3.1 in Chapter 3.  If you don't have that available, traffic within Skywatch's or the Lynx's alert zone is a yellow circle, with altitude differential information and rate of climb/descent if the target is broadcasting altitude.  Other targets are cyan diamonds - solid if closer, hollow if not.  They will also show altitude and rate info, if the target has Mode C or ADS-B.
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Any update on the when 8.2 will be fixed?
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Catani, thanks for the point-out. Table 3.1 answers my question. 

 I'm pleased to see that ADS-B traffic will have a velocity vector associated, even if with only 45-deg resolution. Of course, I'll get the full ADS-B symbology on my iPad.
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I think whether you get the velocity vector depends upon the box that is feeding the MFD (according to that table).  I have a Lynx NGT 9000+, yet I get no velocity vectors for targets on my MFD.   Of course, I do get the enhanced ADS-B traffic icons on the Lynx traffic screen itself, as well as via wifi on ForeFlight.
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 Do you have R8.2?
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No, 8.1  - the version compatible with Skywatch inputs.  But that pilot guide was written for 8.1, so there are apparently some traffic boxes that can provide an 8.1 MFD with vectors, I'm just not aware of which ones.

Since the Lynx cannot get the 8.1 MFD to display vector info, I'm not sure it would do so with 8.2 either.  And I'll never know since I want to keep XM weather on the MFD, and the Lynx's ability to give my MFD merged TAS/ADS-B traffic makes that a satisfactory decision for me.  

I have ADS-B weather displayed in other places, so leaving XM on the MFD gives me some redundancy in weather data.  I also use the Lynx's own traffic display and my #2 GPS (set to closer ranges), for vector information for closer targets.  The distant targets displayed on my MFD are just for advance "heads up" info that tells me if I'm headed for an area with a lot of airplanes near the altitudes I will be flying when I get closer.  With my traffic display setup, I really don't need vectors on the MFD for that.

Obviously it's all a matter of personal preference.  The fact these discussions might help somebody make a purchase decision with more info is why I'm posting about it.
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