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    Posted: 22 Jul 2016 at 1:17pm
I don't think we've publicized our plans for an EX500/600/5000 software update so here you go:

R8.2 enables the display of ADS-B IN Traffic and subscription-free FIS-B Wx on Avidyne’s EX500, EX600, and EX5000 Series MFDs using Avidyne SkyTrax 100 receiver and SkyTrax 200/210 transceivers.   This release will be available later this year.
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Steve -- After you guys work out the issue with L3 Lynx FIS-B and TIS-B displaying on IFDs (see http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=849&PN=2&title=connecting-with-an-ngt-9000), will that also provide a ready pathway to also enabling L3 Lynx FIS-B and TIS-B data displayed on the EX5000C (after R8.2 is installed)?

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Or other third party ADS-B TIS sources, like the Garmin 3x5 transponders?
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Just answered a similar question on a different thread.   Here's the cut and paste from that:

Well we just got a GTX345 ourselves to use for integration testing - so far, no success but it's still early.

However, Release 8.2 is focused on the Avidyne supplied ADS-B devices since those are what we know and those are under our control to ensure we have full access to the data protocols and that they won't change.  Therefore, I would not count on Rel 8.2 supporting the GTX345 (or L3 Lynx) at this time.
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On a software-related note, I was speaking with Bendix King about their RDR 2060 upgrade. Is this supported by the EX500? They suggested it might work if the EX500 was configured in RDR 2100 mode as they are quite similar. Mainly I was thinking about sector scan support and the increased range.

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Any updates on the progress of the 8.2 software?
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It's progressing at the moment. Still optimistic of a mid-year target timeframe.
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Any news about the 8.2 MFD update? When will it be available?
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In the IFD thread, AviTJ states this morning, "... In fact, our recent releases into legacy products of R9, Entegra and EX500/600 MFDs this month has effectively extended the useful life in these products that were initially created long before ADS-B was a topic of conversation."

http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1444&PID=17920&title=ifd-1021-bug-fix-release-timing#17920

What is this month's Entegra release?  R8.2?  I have missed any announcements about Entegra releases.

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Originally posted by LarryPetro LarryPetro wrote:

In the IFD thread, AviTJ states this morning, "... In fact, our recent releases into legacy products of R9, Entegra and EX500/600 MFDs this month has effectively extended the useful life in these products that were initially created long before ADS-B was a topic of conversation."

http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1444&PID=17920&title=ifd-1021-bug-fix-release-timing#17920

What is this month's Entegra release?  R8.2?  I have missed any announcements about Entegra releases.

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8.2 hasn't been officially released yet Larry, but it is very, very close.  I'm certain we'll be announcing it very soon.
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We have been hearing this "very soon" for 2 years now! 
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Originally posted by AviTJ AviTJ wrote:

Originally posted by LarryPetro LarryPetro wrote:

In the IFD thread, AviTJ states this morning, "... In fact, our recent releases into legacy products of R9, Entegra and EX500/600 MFDs this month has effectively extended the useful life in these products that were initially created long before ADS-B was a topic of conversation."

http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1444&PID=17920&title=ifd-1021-bug-fix-release-timing#17920

What is this month's Entegra release?  R8.2?  I have missed any announcements about Entegra releases.

Thanks.


8.2 hasn't been officially released yet Larry, but it is very, very close.  I'm certain we'll be announcing it very soon.

TJ, how soon is very soon. It has been very soon forever now! Please advise if you have any confirmed predictions
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I received an email from this forum indicating a new message from Ibraham was posted yesterday, which was a follow up to a message posted by billyhasat@gmail.com regarding the approval of Release 8.2 by the FAA.  But that Cirrus had to approve it, which they say they will not do.

While the two messages are interesting and present a conundrum for Cirrus owners, my question is, why are they not appearing on this forum?  I seem to remember something like this happening before on another forum as well.  Puzzling.

Would also request input from Avidyne as to where this leaves Release 8.2 for those of us with EX5000 MFDs in the panel.
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Originally posted by Catani Catani wrote:

I received an email from this forum indicating a new message from Ibraham was posted yesterday, which was a follow up to a message posted by billyhasat@gmail.com regarding the approval of Release 8.2 by the FAA.  But that Cirrus had to approve it, which they say they will not do.

While the two messages are interesting and present a conundrum for Cirrus owners, my question is, why are they not appearing on this forum?  I seem to remember something like this happening before on another forum as well.  Puzzling.

Would also request input from Avidyne as to where this leaves Release 8.2 for those of us with EX5000 MFDs in the panel.

I'm having the same experience receiving email notices of new posts, but then not seeing that post on the Forum.  And, the Recent Post feature updates once a week, or so.  I also notice that the "current time" at the top of the Forum home page is grossly in error.
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Avi Steve/TJ

Please update the status of Revision 8.2 for the MFD

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Avidyne has completed the TSO of software 8.2 with EX5000, however, the OEM is the holder of the TC and must provide further approval.  Avidyne has communicated to the OEMs that the software is available and will continue to engage them to support our customers.  We recommend owners/dealers also reach out to the OEM for assistance.

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Steve,

I have a Columbia 350 with an EX5000 running R8.1.

What changes were made with R8.2 since R8.1?

As I understand you, I need to contact Cessna in order to install R8.2 in my plane.  Correct?

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Release 8.2 incorporates ADS-B traffic and weather.  Yes, installation approval must be granted by the holder of the type certificate, so you'll have to contact them.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Release 8.2 incorporates ADS-B traffic and weather.  Yes, installation approval must be granted by the holder of the type certificate, so you'll have to contact them.

Thanks, Steve.

So, looking back through this thread, unless I have a SkyTrax 100, or want to gamble on another ADS-B IN device interfacing correctly to the EX5000, R8.2 provides no improvements over R8.1.  Correct?

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Originally posted by LarryPetro LarryPetro wrote:

Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Release 8.2 incorporates ADS-B traffic and weather.  Yes, installation approval must be granted by the holder of the type certificate, so you'll have to contact them.

Thanks, Steve.

So, looking back through this thread, unless I have a SkyTrax 100, or want to gamble on another ADS-B IN device interfacing correctly to the EX5000, R8.2 provides no improvements over R8.1.  Correct?

-Larry
Yes, I think it's safe to say that if you're happy with your traffic and weather solutions and you have no need/desire to display those products from an ADS-B IN device on your MFD, then there's no compelling reason to upgrade it.
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Thanks, Steve.  

I am reasonably satisfied with the display of weather information on the EX5000 from my XM Aviator Lite subscription and my WX-500.  For the next year, I'll also continue to display traffic from my GTX330. 

My preference would be to display ADS-B dual-frequency traffic and FIS-B weather, which I hope that eventually the EX5000 will be capable.

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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Release 8.2 incorporates ADS-B traffic and weather.  Yes, installation approval must be granted by the holder of the type certificate, so you'll have to contact them.
Steve -- 

Regarding weather: Will the MFD as upgraded to 8.2 retain the capability of displaying XM weather?  Or will the upgrade terminate XM compatibility, and only display ADS-B derived weather? Or perhaps, become capable of displaying either ADS-B or XM weather, as may be selected in setup or perhaps even during flight?

Regarding traffic: I have an ADS-B In traffic solution (Lynx 9000+ with internally incorporated Skywatch) that displays the full traffic icon on my iPad.  But with the Lynx traffic input my EX5000C is only capable of displaying the former standard traffic icon.  With the 8.2 upgrade, will the MFD now display the full ADS-B traffic icon on the MFD, as my iPad does now from the Lynx traffic input?  For what it's worth, the Lynx is supposed to be Capstone compliant.  I understand there was some communication between L3 and Avidyne over this issue.
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Originally posted by Catani Catani wrote:

Steve -- 

Regarding weather: Will the MFD as upgraded to 8.2 retain the capability of displaying XM weather?  Or will the upgrade terminate XM compatibility, and only display ADS-B derived weather? Or perhaps, become capable of displaying either ADS-B or XM weather, as may be selected in setup or perhaps even during flight?

Regarding traffic: I have an ADS-B In traffic solution (Lynx 9000+ with internally incorporated Skywatch) that displays the full traffic icon on my iPad.  But with the Lynx traffic input my EX5000C is only capable of displaying the former standard traffic icon.  With the 8.2 upgrade, will the MFD now display the full ADS-B traffic icon on the MFD, as my iPad does now from the Lynx traffic input?  For what it's worth, the Lynx is supposed to be Capstone compliant.  I understand there was some communication between L3 and Avidyne over this issue.

Yes 8.2 still has the capability to display XM weather.  It's all in the setup.

While release 8.2 will display ADS-B traffic, it will continue to display the old style traffic icons.  That's because the MFD is a level D box and the TSO requires level C in order to display the new symbology.  
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Steve,

When was the TSO for release 8.2 completed? What is the process for the certificate holder (Cirrus in our case) to approve it?

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Originally posted by Ibraham Ibraham wrote:

Steve,

When was the TSO for release 8.2 completed? What is the process for the certificate holder (Cirrus in our case) to approve it?

Thank you
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March 12.  I don't know the process to approve it.  That's a question for Cirrus.

*I edited this post because originally I typed "March 21" because of keyboard dyslexia.


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Thanks for the info, I wish it was posted here as we have been "patiently" waiting for 8.2 for 2 years, now we have to wait for Cirrus to approve, hopefully they will do it soon. I wish things were simpler.
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Hello Jake,

With release 8.2, would the EX5000 interface with the Garmin GTX 345 to display traffic (once Cirrus approves it)?

Since IFD 440 release 10.2.1 removed aural alerts for traffic which was the main reason for installing ADS-B in for us, and the Skytrax 100 no longer being supported or updated, we are considering the  GTX 345. The GTX 345 independently announces traffic through the intercom with bearing, distance  and relative altitude. 

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Originally posted by Ibraham Ibraham wrote:

Hello Jake,

With release 8.2, would the EX5000 interface with the Garmin GTX 345 to display traffic (once Cirrus approves it)?

Since IFD 440 release 10.2.1 removed aural alerts for traffic which was the main reason for installing ADS-B in for us, and the Skytrax 100 no longer being supported or updated, we are considering the  GTX 345. The GTX 345 independently announces traffic through the intercom with bearing, distance  and relative altitude. 

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If the GTX345 outputs using Capstone format, then yes.
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Steve,

Given you guys support the GTX345 with the IFD navigators, presumably someone at Avidyne knows whether they output the right “Capstone” compatible message, right? This is literally a $1000 question for many people considering the 8.2 MFD software upgrade. Does Castone compatibility also include ADS-B weather from the 345?

Thanks!



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Originally posted by Melohn Melohn wrote:

Steve,

Given you guys support the GTX345 with the IFD navigators, presumably someone at Avidyne knows whether they output the right “Capstone” compatible message, right? This is literally a $1000 question for many people considering the 8.2 MFD software upgrade. Does Castone compatibility also include ADS-B weather from the 345?

Thanks!

Capstone format includes both weather and traffic.  GTX345 outputs Capstone format, so yes it is compatible with MFD release 8.2.
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Can the IFD 440 be used as a GPS source for the GTX 345 that does not have a built in GPS?
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I contacted Cirrus regarding revision 8.2, this is the reply from field service:

Ibrahim:
Here's an update for you.

I brought the issue to our Avionics & Electrical Engineering Team.  They are working towards a resolution.  I have not received an answer at this time.  Will advise when they issue an official response.

I do not know when they will release the response.   

I appreciate your patience in this matter.

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Originally posted by Ibraham Ibraham wrote:

Can the IFD 440 be used as a GPS source for the GTX 345 that does not have a built in GPS?
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Steve,

Great, thank you for all your help and the information. 

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Hi Steve...

I have a Bonanza with an EX500. Is that also supported with this release? If so, what do I need to do to update it?

Side question....the EX500 occasionally shows a 'traffic fail' and then it comes back to normal after a few seconds. Is this a known issue with software and was that fixed in this release?
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Originally posted by mcatanese mcatanese wrote:

Hi Steve...

I have a Bonanza with an EX500. Is that also supported with this release? If so, what do I need to do to update it?

Side question....the EX500 occasionally shows a 'traffic fail' and then it comes back to normal after a few seconds. Is this a known issue with software and was that fixed in this release?
Yes, the upgrade is also available for the EX500, but for that unit it is actually called "Release 4.2".  Avidyne has teamed with Duncan Aviation for EX500 maintenance, so you'll need to contact Duncan for the upgrade.  Avidyne and Duncan are still working out the last few details, though, so don't be surprised if they say it's not available yet.  It will be shortly.

The occasional traffic fail message isn't a software issue that I'm aware of, so my best advice there is to talk to your avionics shop or to talk with Duncan.  www.duncanaviation.aero 402-475-2611
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Thanks Steve!

So I just got off the phone with Duncan and they specifically said that the 4.2 release for the EX500 will allow ADS-B weather but NOT XM weather. I had thought you could switch back and forth but evidently not. I guess I would be looking for a definitive answer from Avidyne on that.
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Originally posted by mcatanese mcatanese wrote:

Thanks Steve!

So I just got off the phone with Duncan and they specifically said that the 4.2 release for the EX500 will allow ADS-B weather but NOT XM weather. I had thought you could switch back and forth but evidently not. I guess I would be looking for a definitive answer from Avidyne on that.
That is incorrect.  You can configure the EX500 for either XM or ADS-B weather.
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