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Topic: MK10 Bluetooth Keyboard
Posted By: AviSimpson
Subject: MK10 Bluetooth Keyboard
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 3:13pm
More exciting news from the FAA today. We have received STC for our Bluetooth MK10 keyboard. The MK10 Bluetooth Keyboard allows pilots to wirelessly control their panel-mounted IFD440 or IFD540 system. Activation of Bluetooth functionality requires IFD440/IFD540 software Release 10.1.1. Initially, the MK10 will allow remote entry of waypoints and flightplans, plus map range changing, and alpha-numeric data entry. An upcoming release (R10.2) will fully enable all MK10 functions including page and tab selection, Direct TO, and others.”

The MK10 will have a retail value of $299. For a limitied time, all customers who register or who have registered on http://www.myavidyne.com/" rel="nofollow - www.MyAvidyne.com  will receive the MK10 at no cost. If you own an IFD540 or IFD440 and have not registered at MyAvidyne.com, please do so now so you don't get left out when we begin sending MK10 keyboards.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager



Replies:
Posted By: Dlesh123
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 4:35pm
Since you mentioned it, software v 10.2. Instead of asking when you expect its approval, can you say when it was sent to the FAA? And if there has been any feedback during its review.

Just for rough planning purposes, it is suppose to do all the things we planned on when we bought the boxes last year, so instead of more multiple trips at 200 dollars per to the installer, like to make one trip to get 10.1.1, 10.2. ,Mlb 100 SB done at the same time.

Along with the keyboard, can we expect the new version of the paper manual at the same time, or will that come with 10.2?

Also, somewhere in there was a free t-shirt for some, i think for registereing.


Thanks
Doug



Posted By: twalterhome3
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 5:04pm
what do I have to do to get my free keyboard?
I am already registered on MyAvidyne.com



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Tim


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 5:13pm
I believe Avi said that anyone registered on myavidyne will automatically receive the keyboard once they start shipping


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 6:48pm

Originally posted by Dlesh123 Dlesh123 wrote:

so instead of more multiple trips at 200 dollars per to the installer, like to make one trip to get 10.1.1, 10.2. ,Mlb 100 SB done at the same time.

There is always a "next software" version coming.  That is the nature of software.  Each of us has to decide if the current software provides enough benefits to justify the cost of getting it installed. Naturally, everybody has a unique cost associated with upgrading, so the tipping point is different for each of us.

In other words, I would recommend against ever deciding to do an upgrade (or not) based on what you think may happen in the near (or distant) future.

Too much of that kind of thinking would prevent most of us from ever doing an avionics upgrade in the first place.

David Bunin



Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 7:42pm
Of course I'll take one if its free but this entire time I have wondered "why" I mean in most airplanes it's a short arms length away to reach the IFD. Is there a reason that I'm missing ?


Posted By: pburger
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 8:59pm
Yep.  I have the same question as Bad.  But I'm keeping an open mind.  I might just love the heck out of that little keyboard.  Time will tell.

The other thing that concerns me is the size of the keyboard.  From the picture in the e-mail, it looks like it's not going to be much better than typing on a cellphone, and I hate that!.

We'll see how it goes... 


Posted By: safari
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 9:19pm
The key board works great for inputting user way points while on the ground. 

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Dave


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 9:43pm
The keyboard is almost exactly the size of an iPhone 4S but the keys are so much better than typing on a flat screen. I give the keyboard to my 8yr old and he can bang a flight plan into the FMS with no issues.


Posted By: ronl
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2015 at 10:50pm
Yeah. Forget the tiny keyboard. I want an APP!

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Ron L


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2015 at 10:06am
The keyboard is quite easy to use although many of its functions are not unleased yet.  Mine fits perfectly right on my yoke and is easy to access.  Even though the keys are small, it is not a problem inputting data even in bumps as I rest my hand next to it on the yoke.


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2015 at 10:40am
Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:

The keyboard is quite easy to use although many of its functions are not unleased yet.  Mine fits perfectly right on my yoke and is easy to access.  Even though the keys are small, it is not a problem inputting data even in bumps as I rest my hand next to it on the yoke.

Do you mind capturing and posting a picture next time you go flying?  I'm trying to visualize how you'd use it on a yoke.  I'm thinking I'm going to move things around on my center console/armrest and put it there.


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2015 at 11:28am
I'll take a photo later today or tomorrow


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2015 at 5:52pm

I have no idea how much or how little I will use a keyboard, but I think it's a novel feature, and I want to find out.

I avoid touching the screen any more than I need to, so a keyboard would save me from a bit of knob twisting when entering flight plans.  If I touch the screen all the time, I end up needing to clean it all the time.

David Bunin



Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2015 at 6:09pm
David:

Do you clean your screen with the "Clean and Sparkle" product?




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David Gates


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2015 at 3:28pm


Here is a photo I took today that shows the keyboard on my yoke.  Really very easy to use and I actually find it easier to enter a flightplan using that than the knobs and buttons.


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2015 at 3:49pm
https://youtu.be/aYlit4sm9lw" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/aYlit4sm9lw

This is a short video that I did that demonstrates the ease of entering a flight plan with the keyboard  If you have dual 540s/440s, it appears you would pair the keyboard with only one of the boxes as the information will sync to the other box anyway.  I'd like to hear if anyone with dual boxes has any other suggestions for ease of use.


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2015 at 4:13pm
Very nice, thanks for sharing.


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2015 at 4:42pm
Thanks for posting! Now, I can't wait.

* Orest



Posted By: Dlesh123
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2015 at 7:46pm
David, yes the next software version is always on the horizon, but in July it was 10.2 that was going to provide the functionality that we were all expecting from our original purchases, that now is being dribbled out in pieces. More of what 10.2 was going to provide is yet to come. I am not looking for much of anything past 10.2. ( unless flaws are found)
There is certainly more to the story for the frustration level, but not appropriate for discussion here.


Posted By: sephi
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2015 at 8:40am
Oh yes,  How will the keyboard work if you have two IFD's installed? Do you get two keyboards?


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2015 at 9:37am
I believe you will get 2 but I don't see how you can use 2 if your 2 boxes are setup to sync with each other.


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2015 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by ddgates ddgates wrote:

Do you clean your screen with the "Clean and Sparkle" product?

I put rubbing alcohol on a microfiber cloth and clean it with that.  (I got the microfiber cloth from the place where I get my eyeglasses.)

The cleaning process seems fine.  I just don't like fingerprints on screens, and I guess I have more natural skin oils than some pilots.  Also, since the winter season is upon us, I have discovered that my favorite gloves are not touch screen compatible.

David



Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2015 at 10:38pm
Nice video. A brush up withthe factory video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7p8d6EpdGpI
Just watching that, I was reminded of a few things I had forgotten. Like entering a frequency no need to put the "1" in at the beginning.


Posted By: ptlevine
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 9:58am
Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:



Here is a photo I took today that shows the keyboard on my yoke.  Really very easy to use and I actually find it easier to enter a flightplan using that than the knobs and buttons.
I recognize that instrument panel. You are flying a Trinidad right? I used to fly a Tobago many moons ago. Great cabin in those Socata's!


Posted By: cbenedikt
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 11:01am
Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

More exciting news from the FAA today. We have received STC for our Bluetooth MK10 keyboard. The MK10 Bluetooth Keyboard allows pilots to wirelessly control their panel-mounted IFD440 or IFD540 system. Activation of Bluetooth functionality requires IFD440/IFD540 software Release 10.1.1. Initially, the MK10 will allow remote entry of waypoints and flightplans, plus map range changing, and alpha-numeric data entry. An upcoming release (R10.2) will fully enable all MK10 functions including page and tab selection, Direct TO, and others.”

The MK10 will have a retail value of $299. For a limitied time, all customers who register or who have registered on http://www.myavidyne.com/" rel="nofollow - www.MyAvidyne.com  will receive the MK10 at no cost. If you own an IFD540 or IFD440 and have not registered at MyAvidyne.com, please do so now so you don't get left out when we begin sending MK10 keyboards.


Hi Simpson -

When do you expect Avidyne to begin shipping the MK10 out to those registered on MyAvidyne.com?  Looking forward to giving the keyboard a try. 

Craig



Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 11:31am
Shipping of the MK10 should begin in the next week or so.

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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by ptlevine ptlevine wrote:

Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:



Here is a photo I took today that shows the keyboard on my yoke.  Really very easy to use and I actually find it easier to enter a flightplan using that than the knobs and buttons.
I recognize that instrument panel. You are flying a Trinidad right? I used to fly a Tobago many moons ago. Great cabin in those Socata's!

I was going to ask if that was a Trinidad.  I recently saw an Avidyne print advertisement (in AOPA I think) featuring a Trinidad owner.  Is that you, "teeth6"?

David



Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 1:58pm
Yes, that's him

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: 1964-m20e
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2016 at 8:36am
I received my Keyboard yesterday thanks.  Just waiting to try it in the plane once I get my 540 installed.  Hopefully the shop will start soon.




Posted By: chflyer
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2016 at 1:03pm
How long should us registered folks wait for ours to arrive before starting to query when it's coming?



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Vince


Posted By: 1964-m20e
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2016 at 1:46pm
I registered about 3 or 4 weeks ago. +/-


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2016 at 1:49pm
If you don't receive a keyboard by the end of January, then let me know and we will research it. We should have them to you well before then.

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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: Kentwkalb
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 9:56pm
Received my keyboard today.   Solidly constructed, good weight. Looking forward to flying with the newest "addition".


Posted By: MarkZ
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 7:52am
First post... I got mine also. I have yet to fly it yet but am real close.


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 8:15am

Good to hear it Mark.

There was an Avidyne package in my mailbox yesterday too.  I am pleased to report that I have received ... my T-shirt.

Still waiting for that other thing.

David Bunin




Posted By: cbenedikt
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 11:22am
Originally posted by DavidBunin DavidBunin wrote:

Good to hear it Mark.

There was an Avidyne package in my mailbox yesterday too.  I am pleased to report that I have received ... my T-shirt.

Still waiting for that other thing.

David Bunin


T-shirt???  How does one get a T-shirt.  I did receive my keyboard and cannot wait to try it out. 

Craig



Posted By: pburger
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 12:16pm
I've got a UPS package from Avidyne scheduled for delivery tomorrow (Friday, Jan 8).  I'm pretty sure it's the BT keyboard.  We'll see...


Posted By: AUXAIR
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 1:27pm
My keyboard just arrived - testing tomorrow!

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David E.
Cessna 182 RG II


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 1:33pm
Disappointment alert:

you will be disappointed (right now) at the current software version.  Basically only the number keys do anything, so you will think "No big deal".

David




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David Gates


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 1:36pm
Don't forget all letter keys, the up/down, left/right, CLR, ENTR.

As limiting as that sounds, it's quite capable.  Use the up/down and left/right arrows to navigate around as you would using the dual concentric keyboard knob in the lower right corner of the IFD.

You can build an entire flight plan is seconds using the keyboard in the current software version.

(10.2 enables everything).


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: rolfe_tessem
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 12:11pm
Just got mine today...

Is there any consensus on the best way to mount the keyboard? I'm assuming Velcro...

Rolfe



Posted By: ptlevine
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 1:07pm
Mine just arrived today. I am excited to try it out and appreciative that Avidyne sent this to early adopters without being lobbied. 
Quick question, can the keyboard be charged with any usb charger? 


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 1:47pm
Originally posted by rolfe_tessem rolfe_tessem wrote:

Just got mine today...

Is there any consensus on the best way to mount the keyboard? I'm assuming Velcro...

Rolfe


Most will probably use velcro.

I got a thing from Sporty's called the Pilot Pocket.  It suction cups to the pilot side window and holds sunglasses, pen, and keyboard.




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David Gates


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by ptlevine ptlevine wrote:

Quick question, can the keyboard be charged with any usb charger? 


Yes, presuming you have the right sized/shaped version for the keyboard size.   I've used two different ones that worked just fine and I keep one in the airplane to charge from the IFD if needed.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 6:21pm
It came with a charger cable!!!!  Thank you for the Christmas present Santa Steve!! or should I be thanking Simpson?  Thank you to all the Avidyne elves that made this possible.


Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 6:51pm
I also got a package from Avidyne today.  I was hoping it was a t-shirt but it was the keyboard and charging cable.  It does look cute.  We'll try it when the plane comes out of annual.


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 6:56pm
Got my T-shirt yesterday!

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David Gates


Posted By: cbenedikt
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by ddgates ddgates wrote:

Got my T-shirt yesterday!


Got my keyboard but still waiting for my T-shirt.


Posted By: rolfe_tessem
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2016 at 10:04pm
Got my keyboard but still waiting for my printed manual :-)


Rolfe


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 7:57am

Empty mailbox yesterday :(

I promise to wear the T-shirt to the hangar as soon as the keyboard gets here.

Here's a thought: Use the T-shirts as packing cushion material for the keyboards!

David Bunin



Posted By: chflyer
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2016 at 9:30am
+1 What a great marketing idea! I also promise to wear mine... once it and the kb arrive. :-)



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Vince


Posted By: PA20Pacer
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2016 at 7:22pm
I just received the keyboard and am anxious to play with it a little. I am wondering whether anyone has any information about exactly what information is conveyed by the four LED indicators in the upper left corner. I realize that the IFD540 Pilot Guide includes some information, but I could not find anything about determining the state of charge or how much battery life to expect. All insights are welcome.

Regards,

Bob


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Bob Siegfried, II
Brookeridge Airpark (LL22)
Downers Grove, IL


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2016 at 8:09pm
Interesting.  I had assumed the batteries in the keyboard would need to be changed but I guess they must be rechargeable as you suggest.  The USB cable that came with it must be for that purpose.


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2016 at 9:11pm
From the guide:
Solid Green LED- keyboard is connected
Flash Green LED-Trying to pair
Yellow LED- lit each time a keystroke is sent to IFD

There was no mention of a battery charge LED indication


Posted By: cavu
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 9:22pm
I thought I was signed up.  I registered my540. Is that all it takes to get the keyboard?  Jake, perhaps you can verify?


Posted By: psimpson
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2016 at 10:49pm
The red LED lights up when charging,then goes out. maybe it lights again when the battery is getting low


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 6:20am
Hurray!  New toy!



Posted By: PA20Pacer
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 8:18am
Hi Psimpson-

Yes, I observed the red light behavior you described, but it would be nice to have confirmation about a low-battery indication, and also some insight about how much battery life to expect. Also, I wonder whether there is any "auto-shutdown" capability in case the switch is left on after the Bluetooth connection with the IFD540 is terminated.

Regards,

Bob


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Bob Siegfried, II
Brookeridge Airpark (LL22)
Downers Grove, IL


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 9:08am

Love it!

* Orest



Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 9:12am
Originally posted by cavu cavu wrote:

I thought I was signed up.  I registered my540. Is that all it takes to get the keyboard?  Jake, perhaps you can verify?

PM me your MyAvidyne username and I will verify that you are all set.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 9:39am
Originally posted by PA20Pacer PA20Pacer wrote:

Hi Psimpson-

Yes, I observed the red light behavior you described, but it would be nice to have confirmation about a low-battery indication, and also some insight about how much battery life to expect. Also, I wonder whether there is any "auto-shutdown" capability in case the switch is left on after the Bluetooth connection with the IFD540 is terminated.

Regards,

Bob

From experience at tradeshows, using the keyboard is that a typical charge/usage can last a few days without being recharged. 

I believe that the battery is only drained when the keys are pressed.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: Gary T
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 1:24pm

I registered my AXP340 and IFD540 in November, 2014.  Apparently when I returned my IFD540 to Avidyne this past summer for modification/updates my IFD540 registration was deleted at Avidyne.

Discovered this today and talked to tech support. I am once again registered and hope to receive the keyboard.



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Gary-T


Posted By: warrenc
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by DavidBunin DavidBunin wrote:

Empty mailbox yesterday :(

David Bunin


I've been waiting for it in the mail box too, it won't come there.  We never use or open the front door, but that's where UPS drops things off.  While reading this thread, I went and looked, there it was sitting by the door.


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Warren


Posted By: chflyer
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by Gary T Gary T wrote:

I registered my AXP340 and IFD540 in November, 2014.  Apparently when I returned my IFD540 to Avidyne this past summer for modification/updates my IFD540 registration was deleted at Avidyne.

Discovered this today and talked to tech support. I am once again registered and hope to receive the keyboard.



The same happened to me and my registration was just re-added after I decided for some reason to recheck the registration when no kb arrived. No idea, though, how long it will take since I suppose we're now back at the end of the queue.


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Vince


Posted By: AzAv8r
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 7:52pm
The Fed Ex guy delivered our shiny new keyboard today.   Have to take it to the airport for a test spin this weekend.   Wearing my Avidyne Insider T-shirt, of course.  (That came as an early Christmas present.)

I'll need to come up with a good place to park it in the cockpit so its always where I expect it, and it doesn't get lost in cockpit clutter - maybe a pocket in the center pedestal of our plane.   Ideas for the perfect parking place?


Posted By: safari
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 7:59pm
Maybe all of us that go to Sun and Fun should wear our t-shirts on one day like Saturday to advertise for Avidyne. Who knows maybe Avidyne will come up with some goodies on that day for all that wear the t-shirt or some food or something. 

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Dave


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 11:03pm
Got my keyboard, thanks!  I see it has a nice backlight when you power it up that turns off quickly.  Is there a way to turn the backlight back on?  I see there is a lightbulb on the upper left, but that doesn't seem to do anything.  I'm playing with it at home in case it needs to be paired for this to work.


Posted By: n7ifr
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 11:50pm
Mine arrived today too.  No documentation, so I figure lots of trial and error.  
Found a video online... maybe the keyboard will save some button pushing on the 540.

Any advice on how to choose which (of Dual) 540 is "paired" ...Maybe it doesn't matter on FP's with cross-fill, but which unit will respond to the other functions??

Tom Wolf




Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 9:00am
I have mine paired to the top but it doesn't really matter since they crossfill, however, I tend to use the top box for frequencies during flight (the bottom box for atis and ground control), so by using the top box, I can use the keyboard to enter frequencies during flight.


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 9:02am
I have mine paired to the bottom box which I use most for FMS input.


Posted By: n7ifr
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 9:21am
So, how do you chose which IFD to pair to keyboard?

Also, has anyone used the Keyboard to control Audio "Volume" - Separate Pairing with Audio Panel vs IFD??

Tom Wolf


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 9:32am
Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:

So, how do you chose which IFD to pair to keyboard?

Also, has anyone used the Keyboard to control Audio "Volume" - Separate Pairing with Audio Panel vs IFD??

Tom Wolf

You can pair it to which ever IFD you do the most data entry on. The pairing instructions are in 6-46 of the IFD540 Pilots Guide & 6-43 of the IFD440 PG.

The audio control buttons on the keyboard aren't mapped until 10.2.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 10:54am
Why does the back side of the keyboard have a molded indentation the size/shape of a memory card?  I don't see any place to insert or remove one.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 11:02am
100% pure and  total coincidence.  I swear.....

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 11:48am

Here's Jakes set up:

1. CrossSync turned on both IFDs

2. Keyboard convenience mode turned on such that the lower IFD is the keyboard for upper IFD and not vice versa.

3. BT KB paired with lower IFD.

Since I use Freq List button or Com Presets for virtually all com tuning and I never manually tune a Nav freq, this is a really slick setup.  I never clutter up the upper IFD with a virtual keyboard.   In addition, I have fuel flow set up to the upper IFD so that box wakes up in Fuel Management page while the bottom box wakes up in FMS – FPL page all ready for me to whip out a flight plan using BT KB.



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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 11:53am
Suggest you or Jake or Jared do a youtube video on this?

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David Gates


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 12:17pm
So, it is interesting that my setup landed about the same as Jake with a few exceptions.

I have keyboard convenience mode turned on the lower box such that the upper box is a keyboard for the lower unit.  I use the lower box as my data entry box.  I also have the keyboard paired to this unit.

I have the fuel flow wired to my upper #1 IFD which boots up in the fuel management window.  It is also crossynced over to my #2 so the fuel range rings and other fuel planning works properly.

I have my #1 track up ranged in and my #2 North up ranged out.


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

So, it is interesting that my setup landed about the same as Jake with a few exceptions.

I have keyboard convenience mode turned on the lower box such that the upper box is a keyboard for the lower unit.  I use the lower box as my data entry box.  I also have the keyboard paired to this unit.

I have the fuel flow wired to my upper #1 IFD which boots up in the fuel management window.  It is also crossynced over to my #2 so the fuel range rings and other fuel planning works properly.

I have my #1 track up ranged in and my #2 North up ranged out.

Is this sort of thing saved in a config file?  Is it possible to <electronically> share configs?


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David Gates


Posted By: Don
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 6:15pm
Originally posted by chflyer chflyer wrote:

Originally posted by Gary T Gary T wrote:

I registered my AXP340 and IFD540 in November, 2014.  Apparently when I returned my IFD540 to Avidyne this past summer for modification/updates my IFD540 registration was deleted at Avidyne.

Discovered this today and talked to tech support. I am once again registered and hope to receive the keyboard.



The same happened to me and my registration was just re-added after I decided for some reason to recheck the registration when no kb arrived. No idea, though, how long it will take since I suppose we're now back at the end of the queue.

I just re registered my 540 ... had to send my first one back in and they so graciously sent me another one that has been working flawlessly !!!! Not sure if the first one was deleted or not but i think i am all good to go now !!! And i did get the T shirt... THANKS SIMPSON !!!


Posted By: pilot61f
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 7:29pm
Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

You can pair it to which ever IFD you do the most data entry on. The pairing instructions are in 6-46 of the IFD540 Pilots Guide & 6-43 of the IFD440 PG.

The audio control buttons on the keyboard aren't mapped until 10.2.


Great, my IFD540 Pilots Guide only goes to 6-41. I have Rev 00. Can I get an updated one?


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 8:06pm
Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Here's Jakes set up:

Since I use Freq List button or Com Presets for virtually all com tuning and I never manually tune a Nav freq, this is a really slick setup.


Just wondering, when flying on an IFR plan and ATC gives you the next frequency, how do you enter this without manual entry either with keyboard or knobs?  Do you try to find the needed frequency in the Freq list and activate it?



Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:

Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Here's Jakes set up:

Since I use Freq List button or Com Presets for virtually all com tuning and I never manually tune a Nav freq, this is a really slick setup.


Just wondering, when flying on an IFR plan and ATC gives you the next frequency, how do you enter this without manual entry either with keyboard or knobs?  Do you try to find the needed frequency in the Freq list and activate it?


I was wondering that too.  I find the frequency given to me by the controller in the freq list about 50% of the time so although I'd prefer to use the freq list, it hasn't worked out that way in reality.  It's definitely nice to have and if I missed a handoff while flying through the mountains, I have something to try on the other side and they'll give me the correct freq if I'm not in their area.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 8:18pm
I always use the FREQ button in that case and find the freq is in the list over 90% of the time. I can fly down V3 from MA to FL and never miss a single freq in that list. Sometimes you may have to scroll down to bottom of list but I have never ever seen a 50% hit rate.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

I always use the FREQ button in that case and find the freq is in the list over 90% of the time. I can fly down V3 from MA to FL and never miss a single freq in that list. Sometimes you may have to scroll down to bottom of list but I have never ever seen a 50% hit rate.

I've made sure to scroll all the way down.  I'm in SoCal typically between 8 and 12kft, but find it even away from LA airspace.  To be more specific, I haven't really relied on the Airport or Recent tabs so I hit Freq twice to put it on the Enroute tab.  I'll try to capture some of the ones I miss.

I should also clarify that I'm guessing it's 50% of the handoffs, not 50% of the time.  The database does have the two local approach frequencies I use most often.


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 8:27pm
I will have to try that and I guess everyone has their preferences but it seems by the time you hit the frequency button, scroll to the bottom looking for your frequency, and activate it, you could have manually entered it in with the knobs or wifi keyboard much quicker   


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 8:31pm
If it's listed, especially if you don't have to scroll to the bottom, it's faster from the freq page.  I can have the page up and waiting before they get to the freq while they are saying "Nxxx contact yyyy approach/center on".  Once they say the freq, it's a single touch to select it.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 8:31pm
Yes, scrolling is not frequent.  I find the only time i have to do that is over NYC where there are dozens of approach freqs when transiting the airspace at 5-7K.

I usually just press FREQ, see the one I want, touch it and it's in standby.

But, your point is a good one.  It's just crazy simple with a BT keyboard.  And even cooler in Release 10.2 where you can press COM to put focus on the standby slot.

And yes, if you find freqs that are not in the list, we're happy to hear about them and see why they are missing.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: comancheguy
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 9:31pm
Hmmm...   Never even tried using the freq button.  But I will... :)



Posted By: mgrimes
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 9:44pm
I flew tonight with my keyboard for the first time at night. I may be missing something but the back light didn't work even when paired. It only lights up briefly when turning on the power. Maybe there is some configuration or keystroke sequence on the keyboard that is needed to enable?


Posted By: edanford
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 11:31am
This little light of mine.. 

I can't make shine

The keyboard back light is taunting me too.

I see it works at power up but cannot get it to turn on manually

What is the story?


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Ed


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 11:31am
Originally posted by edanford edanford wrote:

This little light of mine.. 

I can't make shine

The keyboard back light is taunting me too.

I see it works at power up but cannot get it to turn on manually

What is the story?
Do you have it paired to the IFD?


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: edanford
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 12:07pm
Is that a requirement?




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Ed


Posted By: mgrimes
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 12:12pm
Mine was paired and working with the 540 but I could not get the light to work. It was also fully charged. I was on a night flight so it was unusable at that point because I couldn't see the keys.
Mike


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 1:10pm
Did you hit the little "light bulb" button on the upper left side?


Posted By: mgrimes
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 1:36pm
Yes. Several times. I actually tried several key combinations trying to get it to light up. Has anyone got it to work?


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 1:50pm
Negative, no light up for me, except on initial ON.

* Orest



Posted By: edanford
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 2:10pm
I had to run up to hangar at lunch today

Mine does work once it is paired to my IFD540 and I have allowed it to talk to the unit

I had seen the other posts and assumed it would not work but mine does


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Ed


Posted By: lolsen94
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 2:35pm
Has anyone flown using the keyboard. I am curious how easy to use in flight, especially with turbulence.


Posted By: lolsen94
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 2:38pm
I have not received either. Who do I contact?



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