Traffic pattern direction
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Forum Name: IFD 5 Series & IFD 4 Series Touch Screen GPS/NAV/COM
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Topic: Traffic pattern direction
Posted By: Freff
Subject: Traffic pattern direction
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2015 at 9:55am
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Hi, the IFD540 seems to provide everything that I need but there is one thing that I can't seem to find. Is there any place where it will provide information on whether a specific runway is left or right hand traffic?
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Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2015 at 9:11am
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No, that information is not on the IFD540. ------------- Simpson Bennett Avidyne Corporation Product Manager |
Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2015 at 11:45am
| I'm thinking if you go to the info tab and bring up the destination airport, the pattern information might be there but I cant be 100 percent sure until I go look. |
Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2015 at 11:47am
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That was my thought initially but it wasn't there on the Sim. I checked if it was on the airport diagrams from Jepp but that was a no go also. ------------- Simpson Bennett Avidyne Corporation Product Manager |
Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2015 at 1:06pm
| It's not there. I had previously submitted a request to include the pattern direction overlaid on the runway depiction on the info tab. |
Posted By: cavu
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2015 at 6:08pm
| FlyQ has it on the map. Don't know about Foreflight |
Posted By: AUXAIR
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2015 at 9:59pm
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ForeFlight provides pattern direction (e,g, left traffic) in the Traffic Pattern box in the runway tab for the airport.
------------- David E. Cessna 182 RG II |
Posted By: chflyer
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2015 at 6:09am
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I suspect this is due to the use of Jepp as Navdata & chart data source. If Jepp doesn't provide it, it won't be available on the 540. ------------- Vince |
Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2015 at 10:29am
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Correct, we don't show traffic pattern direction on the IFD because that data is not in the Jepp data we get. ------------- Steve Jacobson sjacobson@avidyne.com |
Posted By: PA20Pacer
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 7:57am
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Hi Steve- I am sure your statement is correct. However, I will make the observation that traffic pattern direction is available on my Trimble 2000 Approach Plus, which is also updated through Jeppesen, so there may be some possibility of obtaining that information. Regards, Bob ------------- Bob Siegfried, II Brookeridge Airpark (LL22) Downers Grove, IL |
Posted By: comancheguy
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 1:46pm
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I bet that the Jep Pricing model adds another $1000 a year for that data. *ducking*
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Posted By: Freff
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2016 at 9:20am
| FYI I found the traffic pattern info! On the airport diagram there is a box with comments Inside saying runway xx is right traffic. So far for every airport that I have gone into with a right pattern it was noted in this way. |
Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2016 at 9:32pm
| The sim starts with KMLB as the default starting point, can you use that as an example for where you found the data? I don't see it. Thanks. |
Posted By: AUXAIR
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2016 at 10:09pm
For example: Change the airport to KFPR Go to the Chart tab and display the airport chart and Plan view. In the upper left hand corner of the chart a text box is located. The last few sentences indicate which runways have right traffic. ------------- David E. Cessna 182 RG II |
brou0040 wrote:Posted By: pilotgeek
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 9:23am
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Sadly, that is not in any way consistent. Check out a few other airports with right hand traffic. |
Posted By: BobsV35B
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 10:07am
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To Pilot Geek, Not sure what you would like it to be? All Jeppesen can do is report what has been given to them by whatever authority is operating the airport via the FAA or directly. Happy Skies, Old Bob ------------- Old Bob, Ancient Aviator |
Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 10:44am
Where does airnav.com/AOPA/iFly/Adventure Pilot/fltplan.com/.../.../... and everybody else get information that Jepp cannot? As an example for my home airport, KIYK, the FAA has published runway patterns, but Jepp does not supply it, at least not that I can find in the 540. It's actually important at KIYK because they changed the pattern for 20 (a long time ago) because a left pattern will likely put you into the restricted area immediately east of the airport.
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Posted By: BobsV35B
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 4:09pm
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Good Afternoon Pilot Geek, A very good question indeed! I checked the AirNav listng for KIYK (Inyokern) and find no mention of any specified traffic pattern direction. Neither the government charts or the Jeppesen charts list the right turn for Rwy 20. However, ForeFlight DOES list right traffic for Rwy 20, but not on the approach plate. Where do YOU suppose they got that information? What have I missed? Happy Skies, Old Bob ------------- Old Bob, Ancient Aviator |
Posted By: BobsV35B
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 4:28pm
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Pilot Geek, I did check the Google Earth picture of Inyokern and see that your segmented circle around the Wind Sock is properly marked and in good shape. Very nice! Old Bob ------------- Old Bob, Ancient Aviator |
Posted By: flybikeski
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 4:44pm
| I thought vendors such as ForeFlight got it from the FAA AF/D data? Remember that book our instructors told us about? I just googled "AF/D FAA Data" and got to a page where you can get an XML file with the data. |
Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 7:56pm
Go http://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_safety/airportdata_5010/" rel="nofollow - HERE (http://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_safety/airportdata_5010/), which is an FAA.gov website. For the example of IYK, go to the City pulldown and select Inyokern, then hit submit. This will bring you to a page to access information about the airport. Under Data Downloads, Select Airport Runways Data, this will provide you with a .xls download. You should also look at the data dictionary for how understand the previous .xls data. In the spreadsheet, you'll find that 02/20 has BaseEndRightTrafficPattern set to N (Left traffic for 02) and ReciprocalEndRightTrafficPattern set to Y (Right traffic for 20), all of the rest of the fields are N for left traffic for 15, 33, 10, and 28. You may think this was a lot of work for 1 airport, but you could have left all of the fields in the request form to 'ALL' and been able to pull all of the information at once, the file is under 6MB. Here is the snippet from airnav showing that runway 20 is right traffic.
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Posted By: PA20Pacer
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2016 at 8:41am
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Hello All- I just verified that the right traffic pattern for runway 20 at IYK is shown in the airport database for my Trimble 2000 Approach Plus, so presumably there is some means for accessing this information through Jeppesen. Regards, Bob ------------- Bob Siegfried, II Brookeridge Airpark (LL22) Downers Grove, IL |
Posted By: pilotgeek
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2016 at 3:54am
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From the FAA the traffic pattern information (altitude, where present, and direction -- always) is available in the book formerly known as the AFD -- now the Chart Supplement. It is my recollection that the data is available from Jeppesen, but it may not be in the data that Avidyne gets from Jeppesen, depending upon what they have requested/negotiated. |