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Topic: IFD540 Software Release 10.0.3.0
Posted By: AviJake
Subject: IFD540 Software Release 10.0.3.0
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2014 at 9:47am
Right around the start of the new year, we will be releasing IFD540 Software Release 10.0.3.0.

Release 10.0.3.0 includes:

1.  Fix to an issue where the system was not properly handling EGNOS satellites in all circumstances;
2.  Fix to an issue with GPS where it was susceptible to resetting within the first 10 minutes of power application;
3.  Improves 8.33 kHz spacing selections/display;
4.  Changes the Weight-on-wheels transition definition to support the AXP340 ADS-B STC project;
5.  Fix to an issue that could reset the IFD if the flight plan consisted on 5 individual leg brackets on the same page.
6.  Fix to an internal issue with the I/O card software (for this, we will make it a "mandatory" software upgrade).

This will be a bug fix release and will be covered under warranty.  It will be a field-approved software update so no need to send units back to Avidyne.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com



Replies:
Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2014 at 1:44pm
will #4 address the issue that Orest had when his 340 thought it was on the ground and he couldn't control it from the front panel?


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2014 at 1:47pm
The tech folks explained that the WOW line, if GPS is not active, that it will default to the last setting it had. Unfortunately, if the GPS fails on the ground, this will not allow the WOW to transition to "in air". Believe they have changed this logic to "in air" if no GPS, or something similar.

What has not been confirmed one way or the other, is whether the GS field on the RS232 interface will allow the AXP340 to decide how to squawk, independent of the WOW line.

* Orest



Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2014 at 2:01pm
Steve, given what Orest said, is the WOW signal an open collector so I can "or" them?  One from the IFD540 and one from the IFD440?


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2014 at 7:20am
You can "or" them.  They are standard discrete signals.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: roy32jm
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2014 at 7:12pm
On both of my flights with dual 540s, the number 1 has lost GPS signal a few minutes into the flight. After a couple minutes it returned to normal operation. Am I correct in understanding this update will address this issue? I find it interesting only 1 unit seems to have the issue.

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be on time, do what you say, finish what you start, say please and thank you


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2014 at 9:13pm
Has it done this more than once during a flight?

* Orest



Posted By: roy32jm
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2014 at 12:01am
Orestes, One time on each flight. Same unit both times. Both flights lasted about 30 min and both losses occurred about 10 min into the flight. By the time I retrieved my phone for a photo, the error was gone.

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be on time, do what you say, finish what you start, say please and thank you


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2014 at 8:57am
Roy,

Have a peek at this thread:

http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=478&title=gps-fault-loss-of-data-input-signals" rel="nofollow - http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=478&title=gps-fault-loss-of-data-input-signals

... especially towards the end. There may be some relevance.

* Orest



Posted By: roy32jm
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2014 at 10:33am
Ugh. Sounds like you think this an issue with the unit itself. Not a lot of time in my schedule to get the plane back to the avionics shop. It did exactly the same thing on an hour long flight yesterday.
FYI I am posting a question on your overview thread. I thought it would be seen there more and be relevant to others.
Thanks for your help.

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be on time, do what you say, finish what you start, say please and thank you


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2014 at 12:20pm
Roy,

We *should* be able to tell within a few minutes of getting a copy of your data logs.  Are you able to pull the logs and email them to us (you can use sjacobson@avidyne.com for ease)?  The procedures to do so are on page 6-32 of the pilot guide.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: roy32jm
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2014 at 1:43pm
Steve, I will look up the data log procedure and try to get the data to you in the next day or two.


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be on time, do what you say, finish what you start, say please and thank you


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2014 at 8:34am
(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 23 Dec 2014)

Hit about a 2-week snag when the tests for the EGNOS fix indicated it needed more work.   Looking at a release near the end of January now.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: helojunkie
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by roy32jm roy32jm wrote:

On both of my flights with dual 540s, the number 1 has lost GPS signal a few minutes into the flight. After a couple minutes it returned to normal operation. Am I correct in understanding this update will address this issue? I find it interesting only 1 unit seems to have the issue.

I am having the exact same issue with my #1 540. Avionics shop pulled both 540s, shipped them to Avidyne, came back "no problems found" (was having audio issues as well), put everything back together...happened again first flight out of the gate yesterday....same #1 unit, same exact problem. 

(Running 10.0.2.0)


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Richard J. Sears
ATP ASMEL/Rotor
G-V, CE525S, CE500


Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 5:06pm

I would have your shop (or the hanger fairies), swap the GPS antenna's between the two units to see if it might be an antenna problem or antenna installation problem.  I have heard that if the 121.5 ELT antenna is close to the WAAS antenna, it can disrupt GPS reception.

In any case swap the antenna's to see if its the unit.  I bet its not. 



Posted By: helojunkie
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 5:10pm
Originally posted by tony tony wrote:

I would have your shop (or the hanger fairies), swap the GPS antenna's between the two units to see if it might be an antenna problem or antenna installation problem.  I have heard that if the 121.5 ELT antenna is close to the WAAS antenna, it can disrupt GPS reception.

In any case swap the antenna's to see if its the unit.  I bet its not. 


Thanks Tony - Great ideas, swapping the antennas was one of the first things that was tried as all new coax and antennas were installed with the units. No luck. 

As far as positioning of the GPS antennas - they are at the front of my Seneca right above the pilot/co-pilot and the 406Mhz ELT Antenna is about 25 feet behind them! The only thing close to the GPS antennas is the top fin for my 605A Traffic system.


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Richard J. Sears
ATP ASMEL/Rotor
G-V, CE525S, CE500


Posted By: roltman
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:07pm
Richard, Just curious, could you describe your audio problem? I have a random, yet to be produced on the ground, xmit issue where ATC reports "syllables" drop, but the carrier transmission is strong and continuous with no static.
We've swapped antennas, next up is to swap inputs to PMA450 com1 vs com2 to isolate the new pma450 from ifd540.


Posted By: helojunkie
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:15pm
Originally posted by roltman roltman wrote:

Richard, Just curious, could you describe your audio problem? I have a random, yet to be produced on the ground, xmit issue where ATC reports "syllables" drop, but the carrier transmission is strong and continuous with no static.
We've swapped antennas, next up is to swap inputs to PMA450 com1 vs com2 to isolate the new pma450 from ifd540.

You bet - 

I was flying enroute from Phoenix (KDVT) to Carlsbad (KCRQ) and lost the ability to communicate with ATC on either 540. Other aircraft had to act as the go-between for us.

These are two brand new 540s, new installs, new wiring, new coax, new antennas, new trays, new transponder (340), new TAS605, new everything. The shop checked out all of the aircraft wiring and antennas and then shipped both units back to Avidyne. They were returned with "no problems found". 

We upgraded to 10.0.2.0 and interesting enough have not had the problem since. Granted I have only flown it about five hours since, but they seemed to function great in that regard. 


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Richard J. Sears
ATP ASMEL/Rotor
G-V, CE525S, CE500


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2015 at 7:36am
(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 13 January 2015)

We're in final software test-for-credit now.   We are on track for an end of January cert and release.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: Joe Jet
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2015 at 11:34pm
Steve:

I had the 10.0.2 update and that cured all the GPS signal problems I was having. Do I really need to load 10.0.3?


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2015 at 9:20am
If you are not affected by the items listed in the first post of this thread, then no, you don't need to take 10.0.3.0 and can wait until Release 10.1.0.0 (a lot of new features/functions) comes out in the spring.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2015 at 3:50pm
Anything new you can report on the release date of 10.0.3, presently?

* Orest



Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2015 at 4:39pm
(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 4 Feb 2015)

We delayed the final data submission to the FAA when we experienced some problems in our final software testing.  It turns out it was a misunderstanding of the test results on our end.  There was no problem, just a false-negative.   Once we sorted that out (took a few days), the rest of the operation went fine.

We turned in the last of the data package to the FAA yesterday (3 Feb) and are waiting on STC approval.  We do have TSO approval for 10.0.3.0 but without the STC, it doesn't do anyone much good.  We expect to get a prediction on sign off date from the FAA tomorrow morning.



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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2015 at 6:15pm
Thanks.


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2015 at 7:45pm
Thanks for the update.  Looking foward to it.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2015 at 2:06pm
(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 5 Feb 2015)

We had the conversation with the FAA this morning.   We should have STC signoff during the week of 9 Feb.   It won't likely be before Tues, 10 Feb but shouldn't take until the end of the week.  So at this point, I would bound it (95% confidence level) between 10 and 12 Feb.  Will make another update if any interesting developments happen before then.  Fingers crossed.




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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: GRINGODS
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2015 at 7:13pm
STEVE, YOU DO A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING US IN THE LOOP.....MOST IMPRESSIVE!


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 8:05am
Thanks David but as you know, there's a small army behind me doing all the real work.   Hope your IFDs are treating you well.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: Leonard
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2015 at 6:07pm
+1 on INFORMED


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2015 at 1:27pm
(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 9 Feb 2015)

Due to the significant snowstorm pounding New England, the FAA did not open their MA Cert office today.  So, the expected sign offs the FAA were supposed to issue today has not (and likely will not) be issued today.  We hope this is just a one day slip due to wx.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2015 at 11:55am
(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 10 Feb 2015)

The snowstorms up in New England are taking a heavy toll.   The FAA office is closed again today and one rep who did answer his mobile phone told us now to expect the TIA signoff on Thursday.  So we're looking at a minimum 4 day slip now from the 5 Feb estimate.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 9:17am
(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 12 Feb 2015)

The FAA has just issued TIA which clears the path for the next step on 10.0.3.0 cert. I won't bore you with the details but we should have STC sign off by Monday 16 Feb +/- 1 business day.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 9:29am
Excellent.  Thanks Steve


Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 12:27pm
Steve, Can you share the build content?


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2015 at 7:04pm
DAR due in for conformity inspection 0900 Friday 13 Feb.   We're not superstitious.

As a review, the build content is:

1.  Fix to an issue where the system was not properly handling EGNOS satellites in all circumstances;
2.  Fix to an issue with GPS where it was susceptible to resetting within the first 10 minutes of power application;
3.  Improves 8.33 kHz spacing selections/display;
4.  Changes the Weight-on-wheels transition definition to support the AXP340 ADS-B STC project;
5.  Fix to an issue that could reset the IFD if the flight plan consisted on 5 individual leg brackets on the same page.
6.  Fix to an internal issue with the I/O card software (for this, we will make it a "mandatory" software upgrade) which was causing occasional GPS position loss.
7.  Adding enhanced GPS data logging.
8.  Fix to an issue that prevented serial DME functionality.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: wsh
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 1:52am
I have a dme that is not working due to my 2ndifd. I was told to ship it back. Now I see that a dme issue is fixed with this software release??

Do i still need to ship the units back or will thesoftware fix this?


Posted By: jhbehrens
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

Fix to an issue where the system was not properly handling EGNOS satellites in all circumstances
Improves 8.33 kHz spacing selections/display;

Surely these are euphemisms for 
"Fix to an issue where EGNOS wasn't working at all in any circumstances"
"Added ability to tune 25 KHz frequencies when in 8.33 KHz mode"

Or have you found someone that was able to receive an EGNOS signal with 10.0.2.0?


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 10:08pm
How did it go this morning?  Did Friday the 13th jinx the process?


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 11:45pm
Yes, it was a euphemism. I don't know of any EGNOS sucess until this fix.

DAR inspection went off without a hitch this morning and the flight test sortie was also accomplished without a problem. We're now in FAA processing the paperwork mode and hope that will be done on Monday-ish. We are somewhat concerned the next blizzard which is inbound for Sunday may affect FAA ops on Monday but we'll have to wait and see.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: wsh
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 2:25am
Can you answer my question?


Posted By: jhbehrens
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 4:04am
Wsh

Sounds like there is also an issue with dme tuning that requires a hardware fix.

http://www.avidyne.com/publications/ifd540/606-00182-008.pdf


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 8:16am
Correct. Serial DME fix is a two-part fix - one is software that is part of 10.0.3.0 and second part is hardware which requires a pass through our factory service center. Both parts are required for full serial DME functionality.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 11:14am
AviJake,

Can you please confirm that we'll be able to send our units in at anytime they are still under warranty to get all hardware updates free of charge, even if they are not exhibiting issues on our units.  I dont' have a DME, but I want the hardware fix to prevent devaluing my unit if I ever decide to sell it.  As long as my functionality works fine, I'll wait until near the end of the warranty to ensure the hardware updates have stablized.

Thanks.


Posted By: 94S
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2015 at 9:26am
Steve,

Is the hardware part of the fix being taken care of before new units are shipped?  Mine is scheduled to ship next week, and I have a DME.  I'd really like for it to work. 

David


Posted By: woody0
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2015 at 6:55am
How did the FAA paperwork process fare through the weather? My IFD540 is dropping GPS for about 25% of each flight, so I am really looking forward to the update.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2015 at 9:10am

(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 18 Feb 2015)

We just spoke with the FAA rep responsible for signing off the STC 5 min ago.  He believes they will issue a signed off STC tomorrow, 19 Feb.




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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2015 at 9:26am
Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

(Release 10.0.3.0 Status Update - 18 Feb 2015)

We just spoke with the FAA rep responsible for signing off the STC 5 min ago.  He believes they will issue a signed off STC tomorrow, 19 Feb.



Will 10.0.3 be available to dealers immediately afterwards? No pressure, just trying to schedule a bit of shop time, it would be nice to get it done before the weekend.

* Orest



Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2015 at 9:34am
Yes.  The same day we get STC, we'll have the software and all associated documentation (like updated Installation Manual and loading instruction Service Bulletin) on the dealer website for download.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 8:29am
(Release 10.0.3.0 STC Status Update - 19 Feb 2015)

The FAA has just issued the STC approval for this release. The associated software and documentation should all be available on the dealer website later today.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 3:50pm
Can you provide the location where to find this information?  I'm supposed to be coming out of the shop tomorrow and I'd like to make sure they have a chance to update the software before I pick it up.  I registered for MyAvidyne, I was hoping I would find information there about updates since I had to enter the S/N, but I didn't find anything there.
 
I see that you said this will be on the dealer website.  Since you've previously stated we don't have to have this updated at the dealer, but an IA can do it as long as it is logged, is the dealer website available to me so I can download future updates for my IA?


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 4:03pm
Yep. Try this url and you should see three buttons on the right side.

http://dealers.avidyne.com



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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 4:20pm
Steve:
The last time I had my A&P do the update and a logbook entry.
That update had step by step instructions.
Do you have the same formulated for this update?

Thanks



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David Gates


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 4:39pm
Yes. The Service Bulletin for 10.0.3.0 exists. I'm out of the office right now but have an email in to the crew about getting easy access for those who do not have dealer log in.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 5:02pm
http://dealers.avidyne.com/


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:

http://dealers.avidyne.com/

That apparently has the SIL and instructions IF you have a dealer login, otherwise not.


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David Gates


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 7:13pm
David,

Someone had asked where they could download the actual update.  I was giving the site to download the file.  I do have a copy of the SIL with instructions which I got from Avidyne but I do not see how to upload a file in this forum


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 7:46pm
Gotcha.

I think it is good that you don't have to go back to a dealer for a thumb drive update, but can't proceed without the SIL.

David


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David Gates


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 11:13am
It looks like the update directions are up now.
Question, the thumb drive that came with mine is still the same. Should everything be deleted from the drive before loading this new stuff on it ?


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 11:44am
I deleted everything and formatted again to FAT 32   Update went fine.


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 11:49am
Ha, I don't have a clue what FAT32 is nor will my IA/dealer :-) I am just looking on the drive, seems like it's easy enough to just delete all the files I see....that shouldn't need a reformat should it ?


Posted By: MysticCobra
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by Bad1996 Bad1996 wrote:

Ha, I don't have a clue what FAT32 is nor will my IA/dealer :-) I am just looking on the drive, seems like it's easy enough to just delete all the files I see....that shouldn't need a reformat should it ?

You don't have to know what FAT32 is to select it from a picklist.  If you decide to try to reformat it, use a Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, or 8.1 machine, stick the thumbdrive in a USB port, wait for it to show up as a drive on the computer, then right-click on it, select "Format", and make sure "FAT32" is selected as the file system in the dialog box that pops up.

Or, if you decide you don't need to reformat, you can just ignore this post. 


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 12:39pm
So, the original question....does everything else need to be deleted ? I'm guessing that since you pick and choose the files to upload that it doesn't matter. But at some point (when?) should the drive be flushed ?


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 1:12pm
If you're starting with a known good USB stick, you shouldn't need to delete or reformat.

However, that being said, the cleaner the better.  I would delete the files that exist (but not reformat).


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 2:09pm
Made my first flight with 10.0.3 and all went well.  It was only about a 45 min flight but had no GPS loss events.  Thats a good sign


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 3:23pm
Tech support stressed being sure it was formatted to Fat 32. Since I wanted to start with a totally clean slate on the FOB I thought it easiest to reformat which also wipes the drive clean.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 5:20pm
It sounds like most installs of Rel 10.0.3.0 are going well.  There have been a few folks who have had issues.   Please let the person doing the upgrade know it it EXTREMELY important to follow the procedures in the Service Bulletin exactly.  There are a few critical steps highlighted in bold red font and anything out of order or skipped steps or not waiting the prescribed durations has the likelihood of going south.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 11:00pm
Got mine done. I was probably in the air headed to the shop (in the snow) so I didn't see your message Jake. Anyway, left everything on the thumb drive, downloaded the three files to the computer, dropped them on the drive. First file went in without a hitch. Second file failed the first time but went in on the second try (much quicker) and the third file went in fine. PROPS for the step by step instructions ! It's rare that instructions are written that well, plain English, easy to understand, no question about any step !
For those that will be doing this: It does take some time, we probably spent 45 minutes if not more in the airplane. In a shop, after the first time, I would just start it and come back every 5-10 minutes. On mine, 15 minutes or so was the "wait" time after the downloads. No complaints here, everything went well just don't think this is a ten minute deal. You WILL need a ground power source, don't expect your battery to make it all the way thru. I did (I think) have an issue in the air beforehand. Could be the box, could be me....I'll ask in another thread. Whatever the issue, it performed perfect after the update.


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 11:25pm
I agree that the SIL instructions are extremely well written.  Every possible question I had was answered before I had it.  eg.  The install seems stalled at 100% progress......SIL " It is normal for the progress to remain at 100% for several minutes.  Wait until the install is complete message appears."   Great job Avidyne.


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2015 at 7:12am
Patience is a must when doing these installs.  We get impatient and think it has stuck someplace.  I'll often start the upgrade then leave to BS with another Hangar tenant or go around the corner and get a sandwich from the deli.  This prevents me from "watching the clock".


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2015 at 9:33am
Yes, a watched update never completes!  ;-)

* Orest



Posted By: George
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 2:02pm
Got my new toy back from the dealer. Playing this morning and checked system. The dealer said they had updated the software,but it shows software 10.0.2.0. .I attempted to go to the dealer site and received the bulletin, but no update found. I am an IA/A&P and should be able to accomplish this without taking the a/c back 150 miles for the update. Please help to resolve this problem.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 2:18pm
Hope you didn't get charged for that. Go to this page http://dealers.avidyne.com and look for the four buttons on the right side. Follow the Service Bulletin exactly.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: George
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 2:40pm
Must have been operator problem on my part. It downloaded this time.
I will go and try update. And yes there was a charge for that and probably a 
warranty charge also. This dealer is owned by TCM. I wouldn't recommend them
at this point. I also got a new circuit breaker for comm. The old one is in my 
possession and is good.


Posted By: George
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 4:21pm
Thanks for your help. Once the download worked, everything else went like the service bulletin showed.
I will now go play with my new "updated" toy.


Posted By: George
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 6:56pm
Another question. Is the Installation manual Rev 03 available to complete the
post-installation check-out procedure as stated in System Checkout.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 6:57pm
Should be. Let me check.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: GMSutton
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 11:32pm
No problem installing the update today, other than a temporary error message. But the new software eventually loaded fine.

I hope this will resolve my unit's tendency to reset in the first 10 minutes after powering up!

Mike


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 9:33am
Originally posted by George George wrote:

Another question. Is the Installation manual Rev 03 available to complete the
post-installation check-out procedure as stated in System Checkout.


Just checked on this and Rev 03 of the Install Manual is available at this spot:

http://www.avidyne.com/support/downloads/ifd-series.asp" rel="nofollow - http://www.avidyne.com/support/downloads/ifd-series.asp




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Posted By: George
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 11:09am
Thanks, that is the manual that is called for.
Another question, after the update the charts are gone. They 
were there when the box arrived at the shop. I saw them.
Called tech support and they say that the update erases the chart data.
Not good. After the update the nav data and obstacles are current(Mar 03).
This can't be right. I want the out of date charts to determine if it is worth 
the outlay to back up my ForeFlight with Jepp. I don't want to buy them to
see if I want them.(Pelosi style)


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 12:27pm
First I heard of charts evaporating after the update.   Let me check on a few things.


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Posted By: roltman
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 5:43pm
Yeah my two units didn't update smoothly, but I just picked my plane up after getting #2 installed and it appears either the update or my RMA'd hardware mods deleted everything on it.

Checklists, settings, odometer, etc.

Just passing it along.


Posted By: George
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 9:41pm
Has anyone attached a Bendix KT74 to the IFD 540? If so what 
was the selections for ADS-B operation. 


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2015 at 7:19am
Originally posted by roltman roltman wrote:

Yeah my two units didn't update smoothly, but I just picked my plane up after getting #2 installed and it appears either the update or my RMA'd hardware mods deleted everything on it.

Checklists, settings, odometer, etc.

Just passing it along.

Can you clarify what happened with the units?   There is no way the Rel 10.0.3.0 software upgrade should have wiped out checklists, settings, odometers, etc.      Are you saying the units also cycled through the factory for hardware mods?


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Posted By: roltman
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2015 at 7:56am
Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

Can you clarify what happened with the units?   There is no way the Rel 10.0.3.0 software upgrade should have wiped out checklists, settings, odometers, etc.      Are you saying the units also cycled through the factory for hardware mods?


Yeah, it went back for VHF check, OBS and not sure other mods a few weeks ago while the second unit was being installed.  It was then returned and updated to 10.0.3.0 with considerable effort (NOTE: putting it on a 28v instead test stand instead of the ship's 14v w/ APU seemed to make a huge difference when doing the updates).

Flew it home last evening and I was curious if the checklists cross-linked and when I pulled up the page it was blank.  I then started looking and the odometer and it was reset too.

The two units look almost identical now, not a big deal in my case as I added a 2nd unit and was going to reconfigure everything, but wanted to pass it along.


Posted By: ksdoc
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 1:43pm
First flight after the update and no problems! No dropped GPS, everything went smoothly.

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Posted By: George
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 2:10pm
Steve
Any update on the disappearing charts? I will probably continue on
and purchase a subscription without  checking them out on the
old charts. I just don't understand why they should have been erased.
I also hope that the next s/w update doesn't erase them,once I buy  them.




Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 2:25pm
If you are talking about the approach charts, you have a never ending supply so if they are accidentally erased just reinstall them from your FOB.


Posted By: George
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 3:33pm
That might work if the installer had not formatted my fob.
It was then attempted to update to 10.0.3.0 and apparently was 
unsuccessful. Once I got home and checked for the update, it was 
still at 10.0.2.0. I was successful in updating the s/w ,but the charts
are gone. The fob was empty when given to me.
Thanks , it was a good thought.


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 6:00pm
George,  I thought you were asking what would happen if the charts accidentally got erased after you bought them.  Once you buy them, there will always be an update available on your JSUM site.  Even after downloading the current charts, the site does not toggle down to zero so if your charts got wiped out and the FOB was wiped out, simply download from JSUM again onto the FOB and reinstall.


Posted By: wookie
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 9:24pm
Worked just fine but patience is required.   bh


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Posted By: George
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 9:59pm
Thanks guys for all the info. The problem has been resolved.
This is a very nice community of like minded people. I am 
glad to have participated in the pre-buy and have enjoyed the
forum. It goes without saying that Steve is a good person with
people skills that are unmatched.
Thanks again.


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 10:13pm
Second flight after my update today. I had to cycle the 540 three times to get any GPS signals. So on the forth start it saw satellites. According to tech support, this was an issue and the new software was supposed to fix this issue. When it finally worked it was pretty quick acquiring. I gave it over six minutes on the first start and gave up when the signal page wasn't doing anything.


Posted By: jhbehrens
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 10:14am
After my update it took about 10-12 minutes before I had a GPS fix.


Posted By: wookie
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 10:35am
Originally posted by jhbehrens jhbehrens wrote:

After my update it took about 10-12 minutes before I had a GPS fix.


Just the first time?? BH


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Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 3:24pm
I've sent an email to Jake and tech support but for others, I did see the same GPS loss issue multiple times on my flight today with 10.0.3 installed.  It seems I am the first to still be experiencing this after the software install.


Posted By: George
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 4:21pm
Check the update page and be sure you have the update. My install
shop managed to update to the old level.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:

I've sent an email to Jake and tech support but for others, I did see the same GPS loss issue multiple times on my flight today with 10.0.3 installed.  It seems I am the first to still be experiencing this after the software install.

There are well over 100+ folks who I know have upgraded.  I'm aware of about 3 who still see some type of GPS-related anomaly.

Teeth6 is the only one who we've ever heard that has a related issue where he gets terrain alerts for no good reason.  They are definitely GPS induced.   Has anybody else seen this before?


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Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 6:57pm
I made 2 flights today.  It was the first flight where I saw multiple GPS loss events.  On my return flight I did not see any, however, I did see one other thing on the return that I have seen once before.  On the FltPlan page when I wanted to scroll down to go direct to another waypoint,  I was not able to scroll down.  I had to leave the fltplan page and then return and I was then able to scroll down.


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 9:12pm
Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:

....On the FltPlan page when I wanted to scroll down to go direct to another waypoint,  I was not able to scroll down.  I had to leave the fltplan page and then return and I was then able to scroll down.

That is a known bug, believe it may be fixed in 10.1.

* Orest



Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 9:31pm
Thanks, Orest.  I hadn't seen that one listed before.



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