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IFD + Starlink wifi

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Forum Name: IFD 5 Series & IFD 4 Series Touch Screen GPS/NAV/COM
Forum Description: Topics on Avidyne's IFD 5 Series and IFD 4 Series Touch Screen GPS/NAV/COM
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Topic: IFD + Starlink wifi
Posted By: paulr
Subject: IFD + Starlink wifi
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2024 at 8:09am
I have paid zero attention to the previous discussions of how to integrate the IFD wifi network with other devices because I don't have any of those other devices. But recently I've seen people start flight testing the Starlink Mini and that got me to wondering. Does the IFD wifi networking support Internet passthrough? I'm wondering if there's a way I can have Foreflight devices connected to the IFD wifi while concurrently using Starlink for Internet access. Based on what little I know, I think the answer is "no", but if it is possible, I'd love to figure out how.



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Posted By: PA23
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2024 at 11:11am
Why not make the IFD a client on the Starlink network?  Similar to making the IFD a client on a Stratux network?


Posted By: paulr
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2024 at 11:15am
That would allow the devices to coexist, and for me to connect Foreflight to both devices concurrently. I don't want to have to reconfigure the IFD if the Starlink is powered down (or out of the airplane), and I'm not sure what happens in the case where the IFD's a client but the host network isn't present.

The alternative is for me to switch networks on the iPad, which is no big deal; I have a GTX345 so FF will continue to get position and FIS-B/TIS-B even when I'm not connected to the IFD.


Posted By: gremlin
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 1:57pm
So my setup has been like this for several years, IFD#2 has Bluetooth and WiFi off, IFD #1 has them on, with the WiFi setup to use my Stratus as an access point, which my iPad also talks to, so I Can upload flight plans and see traffic etc.

however, when I updated to 10.3.2 on my IFD's it seems to have removed the ability to not make it's own access point, so about 50% of the time I have to go into "Aux" and make it connect to the stratus, which is pretty annoying as it used to just work.


Posted By: AviSteve
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2024 at 3:08pm
Originally posted by gremlin gremlin wrote:

So my setup has been like this for several years, IFD#2 has Bluetooth and WiFi off, IFD #1 has them on, with the WiFi setup to use my Stratus as an access point, which my iPad also talks to, so I Can upload flight plans and see traffic etc.

however, when I updated to 10.3.2 on my IFD's it seems to have removed the ability to not make it's own access point, so about 50% of the time I have to go into "Aux" and make it connect to the stratus, which is pretty annoying as it used to just work.
Assuming you mean 10.3.1.2...  I'm not sure what you mean about having removed the ability to not make it's own access point.  10.3.1.2 did not remove any such capability, but obviously the methodology for managing the WiFi networks moved from maintenance mode to flight mode (in the Setup page).

The IFD can create it's own network or it can connect to another network.  If the IFD was connected to an external network when it was powered down, then it will attempt to connect to that same network when it powers back up.

Sounds like you are not seeing that behavior.  Is the Stratus network up and running before the IFD is powered up?


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Steve Lindsley
Avidyne Engineering


Posted By: gremlin
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2024 at 4:33pm
Yes sorry 10.3.1.2

So previously because it was in Aux settings you could not have it be it's own access point, and now that's not an option any longer. The IFD is powered up before I start the IFD's in almost every case, but I'd say 50% of the time for whatever reason the IFD creates it's own network, and then I have to go into connections and select the Stratus network and hit connect then everything starts to work again.

Prior to the upgrade it almost always connected (everyonce in a while it would drop out in flight for god knows why, then come back)


Posted By: AviSteve
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2024 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by gremlin gremlin wrote:

Yes sorry 10.3.1.2

So previously because it was in Aux settings you could not have it be it's own access point, and now that's not an option any longer. The IFD is powered up before I start the IFD's in almost every case, but I'd say 50% of the time for whatever reason the IFD creates it's own network, and then I have to go into connections and select the Stratus network and hit connect then everything starts to work again.

Prior to the upgrade it almost always connected (everyonce in a while it would drop out in flight for god knows why, then come back)
So you have the IFD on and the Stratus on.  The Stratus has created a network and the IFD is a client on that network.  Then, you turn off the entire system.   Then, you turn on the Stratus and let it get initialized.  You're saying that if you were to turn on the IFD at that point, there would be only a 50/50 chance that it will connect to the Stratus network?


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Steve Lindsley
Avidyne Engineering


Posted By: gremlin
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2024 at 3:58pm
That's what I'm saying. I turn on the stratus when I put it into the rear window before I even pull the plane out of the hangar, it's usually a good 10 minutes or so doing pre-flight and then going to the bathroom and then hopping it starting up the plane and then turning on the avionics.

In the previous software since you could tell it not to make a network it never did this, now it does.


Posted By: Cherokee34W
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2024 at 8:48pm
I'm wondering about this also. I have a different setup. I have an IFD and stratus 3i that both power up off my master avionics switch. So they come on at the same time and sometimes it connects to the internal wifi network. I look under network and the stratus is there, once I reconnect all is good. If I could turn off the ifd hot-spotting or have it look for a longer time before using the internal one it would be great. BTW there is nothing on the main screens to tell me it has done this as the wifi symbol is green and full bars at top right of the screen. Only not the network I want. the first sign it has done this is my Ipads not showing a adsb connection. 

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Debonair Dave



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