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Topic: IFD Release 10.2 Is Now Approved
Posted By: AviJake
Subject: IFD Release 10.2 Is Now Approved
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:02pm
The FAA has just granted STC/TSO approval for Release 10.2. This applies to the IFD440, 410, 550, 545, 540, 510.

Avidyne Sales and Marketing will have info on how to get it in your airplane shortly (most are deployed to various trade shows right now).

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com



Replies:
Posted By: pburger
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:05pm
HOLY MOLY!!

This was such a big announcement that Steve had to come back to make it!! (no offense Simpson)

Woo-HOO!!!!!




Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:06pm
Congratulations Avidyne!!!


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:11pm
Awesome!


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:27pm
The myriad of emails I've just gotten from Apple indicate the Release 10.2 trainer app is available for download too.

I don't think the IFD100 app is downloadable yet but I haven't looked in the public App store yet for that today.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:31pm
Originally posted by pburger pburger wrote:

HOLY MOLY!!

This was such a big announcement that Steve had to come back to make it!! (no offense Simpson)

Woo-HOO!!!!!



This should have been Simpson's thunder but he chose this time to hang out in the field talking to customers at trade shows.....


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: mgrimes
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:37pm
Thanks!


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:52pm
Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

The myriad of emails I've just gotten from Apple indicate the Release 10.2 trainer app is available for download too.

I don't think the IFD100 app is downloadable yet but I haven't looked in the public App store yet for that today.

Don't find either on the App Store, unless I am not doing it right.


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David Gates


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

The FAA has just granted STC/TSO approval for Release 10.2. This applies to the IFD440, 410, 550, 545, 540, 510.

Avidyne Sales and Marketing will have info on how to get it in your airplane shortly (most are deployed to various trade shows right now).

Congratulations Avidyne!!

Any idea when the IFD550 upgrades will ship?




Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 3:01pm

Congratulations to Avidyne!!  Congratulations to all of us too!!





Posted By: tomd
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 3:02pm
Great job Avidyne!!

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Bonanza F33a


Posted By: ansond
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 3:30pm
Congrats to Avidyne... I'm sure you guys/gals are as happy as we are!!  Well done... 

Doug
N208LG


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

The myriad of emails I've just gotten from Apple indicate the Release 10.2 trainer app is available for download too.

I don't think the IFD100 app is downloadable yet but I haven't looked in the public App store yet for that today.

The IFD100 will be out shortly. There is a lag time between the FAA approval and it being available in the app store. We will keep everyone posted.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 3:44pm
Is the 10.2 trainer there?

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David Gates


Posted By: 94S
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:14pm
Originally posted by ddgates ddgates wrote:

Is the 10.2 trainer there?


It's there.  It's an entirely new app, not an update to the previous app.  I just searched IFD in the Apple Store, down loaded and trying it out now.


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:18pm
Originally posted by ddgates ddgates wrote:

Is the 10.2 trainer there?

It's there now. If you search under "Avidyne" it's a new app not just an update to the old one. The old one can be deleted.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: TomH
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

The FAA has just granted STC/TSO approval for Release 10.2. This applies to the IFD440, 410, 550, 545, 540, 510.

Is there a way to order a updated bound 10.2 rev Pilot Guide?


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:19pm
Thanks.  It is now called "IFD Trainer".




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David Gates


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:21pm
Is there a new PC sim?

* Orest



Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:28pm
Originally posted by TomH TomH wrote:

Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

The FAA has just granted STC/TSO approval for Release 10.2. This applies to the IFD440, 410, 550, 545, 540, 510.

Is there a way to order a updated bound 10.2 rev Pilot Guide?

They are available here,  http://www.avidyne.com/support/downloads.asp?prod=ifd" rel="nofollow - http://www.avidyne.com/support/downloads.asp?prod=ifd , in PDF form. I believe theres a fee for printed guides. If you send me a PM with your contact information and shipping address I can get it ordered.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: mfb
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Is there a new PC sim?

* Orest


I just checked. Nothing posted on the Avidyne web site yet. 

My fingers are crossed that it will be there soon!!

Mike


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Is there a new PC sim?

* Orest


What if we set up a gofundme account and all chipped in $1 and got you an iPad mini?   : )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPad-Air-mini-2-3-or-4th-Gen-16GB-32GB-64GB-128GB-Pro-Refurbished-WiFi-Tablet-/272441932383?var=&hash=item3f6ecdfa5f:m:mLDS2JK_tmDj3SPRMVO139A


Posted By: bellanca1730a
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:44pm
Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Is there a new PC sim?

* Orest




What if we set up a gofundme account and all chipped in $1 and got you an iPad mini?   : )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPad-Air-mini-2-3-or-4th-Gen-16GB-32GB-64GB-128GB-Pro-Refurbished-WiFi-Tablet-/272441932383?var=&hash=item3f6ecdfa5f:m:mLDS2JK_tmDj3SPRMVO139A




Re-tweet! Too funny!

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Sean Andrews
Bellanca Super Viking


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:45pm
It looks like there may be evolving issues with Jepp?

Installing the IFD trainer, to get navdata for it requires another device license (which the old sim didn't).

Jepp doesn't know much about this - their tech support called this the "IFD100" - I am hoping that doesn't require ANOTHER device license.






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David Gates


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 4:55pm
Originally posted by bellanca1730a bellanca1730a wrote:

Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Is there a new PC sim?

* Orest




What if we set up a gofundme account and all chipped in $1 and got you an iPad mini?   : )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPad-Air-mini-2-3-or-4th-Gen-16GB-32GB-64GB-128GB-Pro-Refurbished-WiFi-Tablet-/272441932383?var=&hash=item3f6ecdfa5f:m:mLDS2JK_tmDj3SPRMVO139A




Re-tweet! Too funny!

I for one would be willing to kick in $2


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Is there a new PC sim?

* Orest


What if we set up a gofundme account and all chipped in $1 and got you an iPad mini?   : )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPad-Air-mini-2-3-or-4th-Gen-16GB-32GB-64GB-128GB-Pro-Refurbished-WiFi-Tablet-/272441932383?var=&hash=item3f6ecdfa5f:m:mLDS2JK_tmDj3SPRMVO139A

Apple-free, and proud of it.

* Orest



Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by ddgates ddgates wrote:

It looks like there may be evolving issues with Jepp?

Installing the IFD trainer, to get navdata for it requires another device license (which the old sim didn't).

Jepp doesn't know much about this - their tech support called this the "IFD100" - I am hoping that doesn't require ANOTHER device license.


A few things about the new trainer. If you want to use your Jepp subscription to keep your databases update or mirror what you have in the airplane, you can. That's what that initial log in screen is allowing you to do. If you dont want to use your account credentials, you can select "EXIT" at the bottom left corner and it will load the sim with demo data that may be out of date.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: FlyingCOham
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:00pm
Apple App store, loaded "IFD Trainer", on start-up it went to a page that made me log on to Jepp with our account.  Downloaded Nav Terrain and base map data to match what we have in a/c.  Started Sim.  It came up with "Do I want to enable Bluetooth for this flight, I said no/ignore.  Simm seems to function as expected , including the new SVS tab.  (:>)



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Jim Patton


Posted By: FlyingCOham
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:04pm
Simpson, PC Simm: hours, days, or weeks??


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Jim Patton


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:06pm
Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Is there a new PC sim?

* Orest


What if we set up a gofundme account and all chipped in $1 and got you an iPad mini?   : )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPad-Air-mini-2-3-or-4th-Gen-16GB-32GB-64GB-128GB-Pro-Refurbished-WiFi-Tablet-/272441932383?var=&hash=item3f6ecdfa5f:m:mLDS2JK_tmDj3SPRMVO139A

Apple-free, and proud of it.

* Orest


Which also means you are Trainer App Free and IFD100 free


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by FlyingCOham FlyingCOham wrote:

Simpson, PC Simm: hours, days, or weeks??
I am told it is up on the site now.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by FlyingCOham FlyingCOham wrote:

Simpson, PC Simm: hours, days, or weeks??
I am told it is up on the site now.

Thanks!

* Orest



Posted By: FlyingCOham
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:17pm
Thanks!!!!



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Jim Patton


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:18pm
Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:


Apple-free, and proud of it.

* Orest


Which also means you are Trainer App Free and IFD100 free

Actually, that is a negative on both. PC available now, and android IFD100 will happen as well.

* Orest



Posted By: Craig767
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:32pm
Not working for me on iPad
Jepp login says something about "seats available" whatever that means. Will not load.
When hit exit IFD trainer will not load database, gives error 


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:34pm
Originally posted by Craig767 Craig767 wrote:

Not working for me on iPad
Jepp login says something about "seats available" whatever that means. Will not load.
When hit exit IFD trainer will not load database, gives error 

Haven't seen that error message before. I recommend uninstalling it and reinstalling it. When you get to the Jepp screen, press exit and it should be good to go.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: DH82FLYER
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 5:45pm
Originally posted by Craig767 Craig767 wrote:

Not working for me on iPad
Jepp login says something about "seats available" whatever that means. Will not load.
When hit exit IFD trainer will not load database, gives error 


I experienced the same problem.
However I simply kept retrying and eventually I got the necessary download screen and I now have the same database as in the aircraft.
I didn't have to reinstall the app. I did however have to reload the app, by double clicking and 'flicking it out' of the list.
I'm guessing the problem is server congestion.


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 6:26pm
Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by FlyingCOham FlyingCOham wrote:

Simpson, PC Simm: hours, days, or weeks??
I am told it is up on the site now.

Looks like it is still the 10.1 release.

* Orest



Posted By: George
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 11:07pm
I was  an early buyer on the IFD 550 trade-in program,
when will we hear about the return of our present IFR 540
box? Congratulations on pulling this program thru and over the 
hurdles. 


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 11:30pm
Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:


Apple-free, and proud of it.

* Orest


Which also means you are Trainer App Free and IFD100 free

Actually, that is a negative on both. PC available now, and android IFD100 will happen as well.

* Orest


Where is the PC version available?  I haven't been able to find it.  Great to hear about the android version.


Posted By: MysticCobra
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 12:01am
Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by FlyingCOham FlyingCOham wrote:

Simpson, PC Simm: hours, days, or weeks??
I am told it is up on the site now.

Looks like it is still the 10.1 release.
I also still see the 10.1 version on the website.


Posted By: MysticCobra
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 12:05am
Originally posted by brou0040 brou0040 wrote:

Where is the PC version available?  I haven't been able to find it.  Great to hear about the android version.
http://www.avidyne.com/products/ifd/demo-sim-signup.asp" rel="nofollow - http://www.avidyne.com/products/ifd/demo-sim-signup.asp

Fill out the form, and you'll get an email with a link to the actual download page.  As I post this, that page still only has the 10.1 version of the PC sim, though.

I'm also looking forward to the Android version (of the sim, and of the IFD100!).


Posted By: jrouault
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 8:47am
When and where will the upgrade be available for download?


Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 8:48am
Simpson,  in the past Steve said that software updates could be made by any A&P.  If this is a simple update I would like my A&P perform the update  I talked to tech support yesterday and they told me I had to go to an Avidyne dealer to get the update.  Has Avidyne changed their policy?


Posted By: ronl
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 9:00am
Thanks for hanging in there. Congrats!

Which aviation apps currently communicate with IFD's? ForeFlight?

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Ron L


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 9:09am
Originally posted by jrouault jrouault wrote:

When and where will the upgrade be available for download?

It's already on the dealer site for them to download


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 9:36am
I was told any A&P wilth authority to sign off can do the install but Avidyne recommends an authorized dealer


Posted By: 1964-m20e
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 9:39am
Will Avidyne be doing upgrades at SnF for those of us who fly in?




Posted By: FlyingCOham
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 10:02am
According to Avidyne Tech Support (10:00am EST today) the PC Simm has been delayed briefly due to a "minor" issue with syncing data with Jepp.


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Jim Patton


Posted By: AUXAIR
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 10:49am

Avidyne team -  Thanks for hanging in and working towards this release!

I have downloaded the "Trainer" on my iPad, however I keep getting the message "Chart Initialization Failed" when I try to access the Jepp Charts, although they appear to download properly.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,

David



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David E.
Cessna 182 RG II


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 11:00am
Same with me. Charts failed?


Posted By: George P
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 11:29am
They loaded ok on my Ipad.  They are pretty big files.  Do you have enough available memory for them?


Posted By: MarkZ
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 3:08pm
Is the update to the 540 just a USB file transfer or will the unit have to be pulled and card updated?


Posted By: MysticCobra
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by FlyingCOham FlyingCOham wrote:

According to Avidyne Tech Support (10:00am EST today) the PC Simm has been delayed briefly due to a "minor" issue with syncing data with Jepp.
Thanks for that info.  Hope they get it fixed asap!


Posted By: AUXAIR
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 4:01pm
Plenty of memory and storage available.  I have now reloaded everything twice, and the app will still not initialize the charts

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David E.
Cessna 182 RG II


Posted By: gherb
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 4:03pm
Great news. I downloaded the IFD Trainer. At first SVS was not available but I went to the iPad system settings, scrolled down to the IFD Trainer tab, and selected IFD550 instead of IFD540 and it worked fine. The SVS button on the 550 shows the AHARS view, and the SVS tab under the MAP button shows the view you will have with the 10.2 upgrade on the IFD540. At least I believe that is the case. Really nice.

Thanks and although I signed up for email notifications, I did not receive any about this, if they have already gone out. AviJake and AviSimpson, my email is gherbert@gmail.com if it needs to be manually added.

Thanks again and now I will have to fly from the flat lands of Louisiana to the Appalachian Mountains to really enjoy the upgrade to its fullest! As if I need an excuse for a road trip. ;)


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by MarkZ MarkZ wrote:

Is the update to the 540 just a USB file transfer or will the unit have to be pulled and card updated?

It is just a usb transfer, no need to pull the unit. But by the time everything is said and done it takes about two hours. We did mine last night and it went smoothly but took every bit of two hours.


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by MarkZ MarkZ wrote:

Is the update to the 540 just a USB file transfer or will the unit have to be pulled and card updated?

The update is done with the unit in place and a USB drive inserted with the proper files on it.  The update is done through the maintenance menu which accesses the USB drive.  There is a set of instructions with the update that must follow, but other than that, the updates are straight forward and simple.




Posted By: George
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 4:45pm
I have misplaced the location of the download. Any help?


Posted By: tomd
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 5:04pm
Are you referring to the download of the PC simulator? 

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Bonanza F33a


Posted By: George
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 5:06pm
No sir. The 10.2 Release update .


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 5:10pm
Originally posted by George George wrote:

No sir. The 10.2 Release update .

The link for the firmware update is only available off the password protected dealer page.

But, here is the textual description of the features ...

https://techsupport.avidyne.com/portal/helpcenter/articles/ifd-software-10-2-0-features

* Orest



Posted By: George
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 5:23pm
Thanks Orest. I have that info already. I'm an A&P/IA and have updated 
several units up thru this upgrade. I have just misplaced the info to  access
the download to the USB.


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 6:19pm
You need a Dealer username and password.


Posted By: George
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 6:25pm
Thanks , I will contact customer service or tech support tomorrow
morning


Posted By: MysticCobra
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 7:48am
Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

The update is done with the unit in place and a USB drive inserted with the proper files on it.  The update is done through the maintenance menu which accesses the USB drive.  There is a set of instructions with the update that must follow, but other than that, the updates are straight forward and simple.

How did you handle your user settings?  Is it possible to download the current settings to USB, then re-upload them after the update?  Do the settings magically survive the update process anyway?

Or is it necessary to go back in and manually set everything back up?


Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 7:54am
In previous updates, I always copies my settings to the thumb drive before doing the update. I'm sure it's still possible to do that.


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:16am
Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

The update is done with the unit in place and a USB drive inserted with the proper files on it.  The update is done through the maintenance menu which accesses the USB drive.  There is a set of instructions with the update that must follow, but other than that, the updates are straight forward and simple.

How did you handle your user settings?  Is it possible to download the current settings to USB, then re-upload them after the update?  Do the settings magically survive the update process anyway?

Or is it necessary to go back in and manually set everything back up?

For this update, it works a little differently than in previous updates, in part, I suspect because of the vast changes to the software.

There is a note in the installation instructions 2.2.1 that says "Note: Do not download the user options and transfer to the IFD after the 10.2.0.0 update.  Doing so will result in bricking the IFD and require returning to Avidyne for repair."

So, I did save all the checklists, user waypoints, routes, configuration, etc. onto the USB so I have them.  I then used an iPad to take a picture of each maintenance page (12 of them), and all pages for FMS Setup, User Setup, Audio settings, Datablock Setup, etc.

I put everything back manually using the pictures I took.  The IFD is so nice an easy, it takes but a few minutes to configure it back the way it was manually.

I will reload the user waypoints, checklists, and routes using the saved files on my USB drives.


Posted By: Craig767
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:17am
If you are having trouble getting the NavData into the new trainer on your iPad try this:

When Jepp screen comes up, press the login button without entering ID/password
This should take you to the generic download screen
Can now download files to your IFD trainer

Craig


Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:31am

Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

You need a Dealer username and password.


Why is that?  The other updates were put on there for everyone to access.  This goes against what Steve said a few years ago that owner/operators could get their A/Ps to update the software and a trip back to the installer would not be necessary. 

Has that policy changed at Avidyne?


Simpson?



Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:39am
Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

For this update, it works a little differently than in previous updates, in part, I suspect because of the vast changes to the software.

So, the user settings, screen setup and even the system settings will be reset to "factory default" with the 10.2.0 update, confirm?

* Orest



Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 9:07am
Not good.

Do the instructions prompt the installer to do the sort of tasks that Gring did? Otherwise could be a real fiasco.

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David Gates


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 9:11am
David, the Instructions are very clear and are step-by-step.  The very first step in the instruction is 2.2.1 Record System Settings which outlines seven specific items to record. It contains red warnings.  So, as long as your avionics shop knows how to read and follow directions then it should not be a fiasco.

If it were me, I would probably take pictures of them myself.

And you probably want a certified dealer who has experience with updating IFDs to do the upgrade.


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 9:12am
Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

The update is done with the unit in place and a USB drive inserted with the proper files on it.  The update is done through the maintenance menu which accesses the USB drive.  There is a set of instructions with the update that must follow, but other than that, the updates are straight forward and simple.

How did you handle your user settings?  Is it possible to download the current settings to USB, then re-upload them after the update?  Do the settings magically survive the update process anyway?

Or is it necessary to go back in and manually set everything back up?

For this update, it works a little differently than in previous updates, in part, I suspect because of the vast changes to the software.

There is a note in the installation instructions 2.2.1 that says "Note: Do not download the user options and transfer to the IFD after the 10.2.0.0 update.  Doing so will result in bricking the IFD and require returning to Avidyne for repair."

So, I did save all the checklists, user waypoints, routes, configuration, etc. onto the USB so I have them.  I then used an iPad to take a picture of each maintenance page (12 of them), and all pages for FMS Setup, User Setup, Audio settings, Datablock Setup, etc.

I put everything back manually using the pictures I took.  The IFD is so nice an easy, it takes but a few minutes to configure it back the way it was manually.

I will reload the user waypoints, checklists, and routes using the saved files on my USB drives.

This update is different than the ones in the past. That is why we highly recommend that only Avidyne approved dealers do the update.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 9:23am
Gring, thank you.

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David Gates


Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 10:25am
Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

The update is done with the unit in place and a USB drive inserted with the proper files on it.  The update is done through the maintenance menu which accesses the USB drive.  There is a set of instructions with the update that must follow, but other than that, the updates are straight forward and simple.

How did you handle your user settings?  Is it possible to download the current settings to USB, then re-upload them after the update?  Do the settings magically survive the update process anyway?

Or is it necessary to go back in and manually set everything back up?

For this update, it works a little differently than in previous updates, in part, I suspect because of the vast changes to the software.

There is a note in the installation instructions 2.2.1 that says "Note: Do not download the user options and transfer to the IFD after the 10.2.0.0 update.  Doing so will result in bricking the IFD and require returning to Avidyne for repair."

So, I did save all the checklists, user waypoints, routes, configuration, etc. onto the USB so I have them.  I then used an iPad to take a picture of each maintenance page (12 of them), and all pages for FMS Setup, User Setup, Audio settings, Datablock Setup, etc.

I put everything back manually using the pictures I took.  The IFD is so nice an easy, it takes but a few minutes to configure it back the way it was manually.

I will reload the user waypoints, checklists, and routes using the saved files on my USB drives.

This update is different than the ones in the past. That is why we highly recommend that only Avidyne approved dealers do the update.

Each dealer and person have different skills, not all dealers excel in computer literacy and not all people excel in avionics.  I felt more comfortable doing the computer literacy steps of the previous updates rather than going to the dealer, can you elaborate on how this update is different?  It makes me a bit nervous when the dealer is trying to figure out how to safely remove a thumb drive and unzip files...  Is there any distinction in the warranty if an owner under IA supervision bricks the unit versus a dealer?



Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 1:52pm


For this update, it works a little differently than in previous updates, in part, I suspect because of the
This update is different than the ones in the past. That is why we highly recommend that only Avidyne approved dealers do the update.

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recommend or require?



Posted By: MysticCobra
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

There is a note in the installation instructions 2.2.1 that says "Note: Do not download the user options and transfer to the IFD after the 10.2.0.0 update.  Doing so will result in bricking the IFD and require returning to Avidyne for repair."

So, I did save all the checklists, user waypoints, routes, configuration, etc. onto the USB so I have them.  I then used an iPad to take a picture of each maintenance page (12 of them), and all pages for FMS Setup, User Setup, Audio settings, Datablock Setup, etc.

I put everything back manually using the pictures I took.
Thanks for explaining this.  I will make sure to take photos of all the setup screens before I deliver the plane to the avionics shop...just in case.


Posted By: N8906M
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 4:51pm
Glad to hear you had success, but I've not.  It appears you have to have a current Jepp account, and I've not bought one yet as my 540 is still 8 months old.  I tried the suggested workaround to Exit instead of logging in, but the Trainer doesn't load the nav files after opening the Trainer. Any other suggestions ??  I'd love to hear if anyone else has gotten it to run without having a current Jepp subscription.

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Posted By: 94S
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 5:14pm
In the 10.2 PG rev 03 on page 2-3 there is a "Tips and Techniques" box about ETE Granularity.  It states that the ETE fields will display MM:SS after the time remaining is drops below 10 minutes.  While using the IFD Trainer, I have observed that the ETEs remain in the HH:MM format all the way down to zero.  Is this just a sim thing or a miss print?


Posted By: marktrav
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

Originally posted by MarkZ MarkZ wrote:

Is the update to the 540 just a USB file transfer or will the unit have to be pulled and card updated?

The update is done with the unit in place and a USB drive inserted with the proper files on it.  The update is done through the maintenance menu which accesses the USB drive.  There is a set of instructions with the update that must follow, but other than that, the updates are straight forward and simple.



I can confirm Lance's 2 hours. Epps installed mine today and it was every bit of 2 hours. 80% of those 2 hours were spent watching the little progress bar at the bottom of the screen. The rest of the time was verification. It went smoothly. (I was already at 10.1.1. Not sure how anyone could get a 20 minute install time and I think 80 minutes was still too low an estimate) 


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 5:45pm
I don't know where the 20min comes from because the service bulletin says 75min for previous versions 10.1.0.0 through 10.1.2.0 and 60min for 10.1.3.0


Posted By: marktrav
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 7:11pm
Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

I don't know where the 20min comes from because the service bulletin says 75min for previous versions 10.1.0.0 through 10.1.2.0 and 60min for 10.1.3.0

The service bulletin that Epps was using estimated 20 to 80 minutes. 


Posted By: RePalen
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 7:46pm
Do you know when the people that bought the 540 with the 550 upgrade will be able to get the new unit?

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Randy


Posted By: Ibraham
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 7:49pm
The PC simulator release 10.2 is now online, it is a large file at about 2.5 GB download


Posted By: gherb
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by AUXAIR AUXAIR wrote:

Plenty of memory and storage available.  I have now reloaded everything twice, and the app will still not initialize the charts


Mine will no longer display the SVS, only the maps. It worked yesterday but not today.


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by RePalen RePalen wrote:

Do you know when the people that bought the 540 with the 550 upgrade will be able to get the new unit?
Customers will be notified when they can expect to receive their 550 over the next few weeks. 


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Posted By: Froethel
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:09pm
How does on download that file to there PC?  I've been looking but can't find it....thanks

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Posted By: AzAv8r
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:36pm
On the iPad "IFD Trainer" database:  I hit 'cancel' at the login screen as described earlier in this thread, and was greeted by an IFD image with a screen saying something like "load databases" or something along those lines.  I *think* what I did to make it work was:
-   using "Aux", go to "load databases" or whatever it's called.
-   This brought up the same Jepp login screen. 

(It is possible I exited the App though, and restarted, to get the Jepp prompt.)

This time, in the lower *right* I noticed a button (Login, or perhaps Download).  Clicked, and was provided an opportunity to download Sim databases without a Jepp account.  I may have needed to exit the App after downloading to get them to load.  I know I exited and restarted at one point, but I don't recall when, and certainly don't know if it was really necessary.  

The point is: it works, it's there, but either because of non-obvious labelling or perhaps more likely our eagerness to play with this fabulous new toy, we might miss the right steps to get started.  Keep pluggin' away...    Perhaps someone who has been successful with the Sim databases and is more iPad savvy (or was at least more attentive) can embellish and correct.






Posted By: Froethel
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:39pm
Thanks but that doesn't work for my PC...I think that is only for an Ipad.  

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Posted By: dmtidler
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:46pm
Here is the link to the IFD PC simulator download:

http://www.avidyne.com/products/ifd/demo-sim-login.asp" rel="nofollow - http://www.avidyne.com/products/ifd/demo-sim-login.asp

User Name: ifd540
Password: hybridtouch




Posted By: whiskykilo1
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 2:32am
Contains the FAA Approval also the EASA Approval?

https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/international/media/TSOA-ETSOA-Reciprocal-Acceptance-FAQs.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/international/media/TSOA-ETSOA-Reciprocal-Acceptance-FAQs.pdf


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Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 9:50am
Two questions:
1. How many IFD100s are supported at one time by the 540/550?
2. Is a V 10.3 planned?

Really nice work.

Thanks.



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Posted By: gherb
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 11:59am
Regarding the iPad IFD Trainer, I think you just have to be patient as it seems it takes a while for the synthetic vision to load. I set my ipad down for a while and came back and then the SVS was there. Here are a few screenshots comparing the map to the 540 SVS to the 550 AHARS SVS. FYI the route was Johnson County, Mountain City TN (6A4) to Mountain Air NC (2NC0). Real short route with varying mountain terrain, which is a good route to experiment with the sim, but no instrument approaches. You could add Asheville NC (KAVL) for that.








Posted By: n7ifr
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 9:57am
Comments:
1.  Download and operation with IFD Trainer on iPad and PC work like a charm - Demo or Jepp subscription.  Thank you Avidyne.

2.  PC Trainer uses previous version files like Waypoints, FP's, Chk-lists, etc.

3.  Still no IFD100.  Apparently the IFD100 App has already been approved by Apple Store, but is still pending Avidyne release...

4.  local Avidyne Dealer yesterday configured my dual IFD540's with v10.2 and SkyTrax100 (MLB100) with v4.1.0, but - tells me still not FAA legal for 540 to receive & display simultaneously both ADSB and TAS traffic despite both now on RS232 streams...

Questions:

1. Is there any way to import waypoints & FPs to iPad Trainer? - PC Trainer takes USB thumb drive.

2. Short of the pending TAS "A" software upgrade, is there any way with v10.2/v4.1.0 to display both ADSB and TAS traffic on IFD540 - #4 above?

3. With Avidyne Trainer or panel IFD540, on boot up, is there any reason to not use the Yes selection for WiFi/BT? 

Tom W.


Posted By: RePalen
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 5:01pm
Does 10.2 support GLD88?  Previous documents said it would but I haven't heard anything lately. 

Thanks.


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Randy


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2017 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

[QUOTE=oskrypuch]Is there a new PC sim?

* Orest


What if we set up a gofundme account and all chipped in $1 and got you an iPad mini?   : )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPad-Air-mini-2-3-or-4th-Gen-16GB-32GB-64GB-128GB-Pro-Refurbished-WiFi-Tablet-/272441932383?var=&hash=item3f6ecdfa5f:m:mLDS2JK_tmDj3SPRMVO139A

Apple-free, and proud of it.

* Orest

[/QUOTE

Apple saves the day
https://www.beechtalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=135747


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2017 at 11:13pm
Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:


Apple saves the day
https://www.beechtalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=135747

Ah, very good. Nice to see that Apple now has a theft/tracking feature too. OTOH, why would you want it back? ;)

But, kidding aside, good that the police actually chose to act on that information. Often, they won't.

* Orest



Posted By: pburger
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2017 at 10:58pm
One week in, and still no IFD-100...

Bueller?   
              Bueller?
                            Bueller?


Posted By: Alouicious
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2017 at 11:52pm
Avionics shop quoted me three hours per unit, for a total of 6 hours labor.  They probably just called Avidyne and were told to allow three hours per unit.  Three hours total, maybe, but not three hours technician time.  At least I hope he wouldn't sit and watch the little airplane work its way across the green line for three hours.  OK, maybe that part is only two hours.  Maybe less.  (I "multitask" when updating the Jepp data, particularly the last Terrain file!)

Gring indicates it's just loading the unzipped files from the thumb drive to the unit through the front USB port, and waiting.  It's not necessary to access the memory card on the side under the airworthiness decal or manipulate the DIP switches.

I installed the last update when it was available without the dealer login/password without any issues.  Went back to the avionics shop for the logbook entry and they wouldn't/didn't  bill Avidyne. 

The knowledgeable folks on this forum should be given the option.  I certainly trust my ability to load firmware a little more than I trust the technician, who probably won't reset the units back to the way they were set up before.  

Maybe lawyers are involved.  Or the "what if ... " folks at Avidyne.

Maybe I'll go to Epps instead!



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