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    Posted: 23 Sep 2018 at 9:28pm
IFD 440.  Wifi and bluetooth set up, and working.
Bluetooth for the keyboard.  Works good.
Wifi for  the IFD 100 works good.
WIFI for the FltplanGo app seems to be intermittant.  
In Track Up mode, the map shifts left and right about 30 or 40 times a minute, and the speed and altitude blocks on the HUD are intermittant correct, and then "way off".
I am curious if the WIFI can only accept one (1) device  at any one time.
FltplanGo says it is a weak WIFI connection.  
I did not check the connection data when I was flying, so have no way of knowing until next weekend.
Anyone have insight into this?

IFD 440 10.2.1
fltplan go app version 4.7.14 Build number 1027
Ipad version 11.4 (15f79)
model mr7j2ll/a
128 gb capacity, with 113.73 gb available.

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Are you runing the IFD100 and Fltplan Go on two different tablets? If so, could one of the tablets be having a hardware issue?

I know that Avidyne has demonstrated multiple instances of IFD100, on simultaneous multiple tablets. I have not read of any number of devices limitation.

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Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Are you runing the IFD100 and Fltplan Go on two different tablets?
Yes. Two IPAD tablets, one with IFD 100, and one with FltplanGo, and JeppFD.  The FltplanGo and Jeppfd IPAD tablet is new, less than 30 hours run time on it.  The issue is only with the IFD 440 connected to  THAT IPAD.  I have used the DUAL Xgps150A, with no issues. (Albeit, as a stand alone connection with FltplanGo, and it is Bluetooth. So, if it is a WIFI issue, that would not tell me much.)

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

If so, could one of the tablets be having a hardware issue?
If they are having hardware issues, it happened on THAT flight, with THAT FltplanGo app, with THAT exact time that I looked at it, and THAT IPAD, (which, since it is new, having a hardware issue is NOT that far fetched.)  
After taking the "TRACK UP" mode off of the FltplanGo app, and putting it into "NORTH UP", the map shifting issue went away.  
The JeppFD app on the same device as FltplanGo, has no issues, in any mode.

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

I know that Avidyne has demonstrated multiple instances of IFD100, on simultaneous multiple tablets.
 
I was not aware of this.

Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

I have not read of any number of devices limitation.
Nor I, but I thought I would ask, in case I missed it.
I guess the next step is to go fly, and check all of the connection data on FltplanGo.
I am not one to pass up an opportunity to fly, to "check on" something, or other.

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Hmm. How responsive is the iPad when that happens? Did you have many apps opened at the time?  Sounds like that app is running out of resources or using too much processing.  Something similar is what made me stay away of the FlyQ efb app. It was causing my iPad to eat battery and was not smooth. 
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This is the only reference I am aware of regarding maximum number of iPads WiFi connected to a single IFD: "(a maximum of 2 iPads can be connected to a single panel IFD)."

This quote came from the IFD100 QRG downloadable from the Avidyne website. My only question is whether the 2 iPad limit quoted is a limit for those iPads specifically running the IFD100 app or does the two iPads limit apply regardless of app used? 
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Originally posted by cvela90 cvela90 wrote:

Hmm. How responsive is the iPad when that happens?
I do not know.  I didn't have a need to push any buttons or anything.
Originally posted by cvela90 cvela90 wrote:

Did you have many apps opened at the time? 
I had the FltplanGo app open, and running. All the other apps were off, even the system page.  Oddly enough, when I placed FltplanGo into NORTH up mode, and the map stopped shifting, I went and opened JeppFD, and when it was operating normal, I was flipping between the FltplanGo and JeppFD app, but never went back to the TRACK up mode in FltplanGo. All operated normally.  
Originally posted by cvela90 cvela90 wrote:

Sounds like that app is running out of resources or using too much processing.  Something similar is what made me stay away of the FlyQ efb app. It was causing my iPad to eat battery and was not smooth. 
I thought of that.  So I emailed FltplanGo tech, and they said it was the "weak GPS".
I will know more, either tomorrow, or this weekend.
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Originally posted by dmtidler dmtidler wrote:

This is the only reference I am aware of regarding maximum number of iPads WiFi connected to a single IFD: "(a maximum of 2 iPads can be connected to a single panel IFD)."
It makes sense if one thinks about it.  The WIFI signal is only so strong.

Originally posted by dmtidler dmtidler wrote:

This quote came from the IFD100 QRG downloadable from the Avidyne website. My only question is whether the 2 iPad limit quoted is a limit for those iPads specifically running the IFD100 app or does the two iPads limit apply regardless of app used? 
I do not know.  I would assume 2 physical units.
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I believe the 2 iPad limit for connection to the Avidyne IFD's WiFi is for devices running the IFD-100 app.  The IFD-100 app has a setting where you have to identify the IFD-100 on your iPad as either device #1 or #2.  Those are the only two options.

If you are using the Avidyne IFD's WiFi as the access point for other devices or apps beyond the IFD -100, then I believe you can have more than 2 devices.  So theoretically you could have 2 simultaneous instances of the IFD-100 app running on 2 iPads and a 3rd, or more, device(s) running Foreflight, or other connections, to connect to the IFD's WiFi, etc.

Caveat, I have not tested this setup and am only discerning from the literature and knowledge of WiFi setups.  YMMV
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