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Thanks folks.  Not willing to spike the ball until TSO/STC in hand but we *should* be 5ish days from that.

Plan on the 440 being 6 months in trail.  It might be sooner but I wouldn't plan on it.  I've  transitioned to full-time flight test of that unit and it's doing great.
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Congrats to the whole team.
I hope everyone has a well deserved weekend off.

Then, on Monday, can we start a IFD440 Certification Status forum :)
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Congratulations, Steve!  Wish I was going to make it to OSH this year so I could say so in person.  And I see you have good news on the R9 SynVis as well.  You guys should have a great show! :-)
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Well done, Steve and team!  I'm really looking forward to certification so that I can wave the news in front of my friends who called the IFD540 "vaporware" and thought I was a fool for investing early!

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Were the corrective actions to the two DO-200A findings accepted by the ACO?
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Yes.   The Type 2 LOA letter has been issued to Avidyne.
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so there is noting left to do at this point but wait? :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AviJake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 9:46pm
We wait until the FAA has an issue and then we pounce on it.  There have been three such firedrills in the past 30 hours - all of which have been resolved to the FAA satisfaction.  We just got another one 4 hours ago and it is being worked tonight.   This is par for the course.
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Tic-Tock, Tic-Tock, Tic-Tock....... Steve, I'm starting to think your sandbagging us. Does Avidyne want to announce certification at Oshkosh? You can tell us, we won't tell a sole. Seriously, Steve.
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Avidyne just received TSO/STC approval for the IFD540.
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Congrats.  Long haul, sure you are glad that's done.

Now waiting for call about shipments.

You need a vacation before the 440 and Aviservos.


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Great news!!  Can't wait to get that baby installed.  Already have a buyer for my 530W so I'm excited.

Nice work.
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Time to close this thread permanently!

Congrats Jake!

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We are NOW in the "post IFD540 certification period". 

Everything will be different!

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Congrats long time in coming but we are here.

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Congradulations Steve, your hard work and perseverance has paid off.
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Congratulations!!!  Kudos to the whole team.  I hope the openness doesn't change with the certification and as a group we can continue to improve the IFD540 with our field reports. 
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Hi all.

I saw your press release: congratulations for the certification of the IFD540.

I hope to see it in Europe soon.

By the way, how was it about at Oshkosh?

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I hear via my grapevine that shipments have been curtailed pending a problem with the new units?

How long, and what effect will this have on future deliveries?
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interesting.... I am in the second production lot and I was told that I shouldn't expect delivery until the middle of October.  that was last week. 
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Tony -- By "second production lot", do you mean "month 2" ?

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Originally posted by phkmn phkmn wrote:

I hear via my grapevine that shipments have been curtailed pending a problem with the new units?

How long, and what effect will this have on future deliveries?

Oh No!!  Say it ain't so!!

I spoke with the Avidyne folks at Oshkosh and was told that production would be split down the middle such that half of all new units would go to toward the pre-orders, and the other half would go to immediate retail sales.  I'm supposedly in Month 3 and we were all told on here that they may beat those estimates.  However, if there is a problem with production...
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Orest, yes the second production lot, which is the same as the second month of production.  I believe the name of the guy I spoke was Brian Oliver.  I think he was their production guy. 

If you think about it, the timing is about right.  The first production month is aug, then the second production month is sept.  After they build it, they have to do an Environmental Stress Screening (ESS) test, and then perform a complete functional test, pack and ship it.  I'd be willing to bet that the functional test isn't automated because of the human interaction that has to occur.  I can see that talking a few weeks.

The production schedule, although a disappointment, isn't that big a deal in the bigger picture.  If I have to wait an extra 30 days for a quality unit, I don't mind.  The big issue is the 28 day cycle.  I'm going to be living with that for the life on the unit.  I really hope Avidyne will make the interface open.  I think the reason most of us are here is because we detest the way Garmin has a taken advantage of their customers by having a closed system.  If you have Garmin, you have to have Garmin.  I understand the business model but I don't like it. 

I want to exercise my freedom of choice and let the market forces drive success. 

There may be a certification issue I don't understand, but I really do hope Avidyne allows competition with Jepp. 






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I can think of three issues with allowing other companies to produce charts and plates for the IFD.

One is certification.  If you buy a download from Joe's Bar & Grill and Charts and Plates are you legal to fly IFR approaches?  Who said the data is good and how was it tested?

Another is financial.  I think Jepp gives Avidyne money whenever they sell an IFD subscription.  This revenue stream is part of Avidyne's financial model.  If they didn't get it they would have to charge IFD owners somehow to make up the difference.

Another is contractual.  I don't know if the contract with Jepp has limits on what they can do that competes.

I'm sure Seattle would like to be able to sell charts for a certified GPS but by the time they overcame the hurdles I don't know if they would be much less expensive.

(Nature abhors a vacuum and fills it with speculation.  Steve, feel free to chime in and correct my musings.)

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Quote Orest, yes the second production lot, which is the same as the second month of production.  I believe the name of the guy I spoke was Brian Oliver.  I think he was their production guy.  ...

Hmm, so Christmas for me (month 4), maybe!  

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I'm still out of the office on vacation until Monday, 11 Aug so I'll have to check with the factory guys but what I do know is:

The factory has shipped all units they had built up and ready for distribution.

The factory is taking a very slow and deliberate approach to building up, testing, and declaring ready for distribution additional units.   We want to be very careful we don't trip ourselves up during the initial delivery ramp up.
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Has anyone in month 1 received a call and/or notification?

I'm just curious as I'm a month 1 slot and I have not.

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Nothing!
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that's disturbing.....  Maybe when Steve comes back from vacation he can enlighten us. 
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Is there any expectation when you reach EASA Certification ?
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I have a first month delivery.  I received a call from Brian on 7/29 saying my order would ship in the next couple days.  I called back for status on 8/1.  Brian was nice enough to return my call from Oshkosh, but he had bad news about the unit being held for further testing on a board.  He told me it would ship this week.  I called him again yesterday, and he told me it would be another week.
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So, there you go, some production jitters. The rumor upthread may have been spot on.

But, now is the time to fix this. What's another week or two.

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Ok, I spoke with them at KOSH last week as I had to collect my dividend payment from them in the form of beer and brats. Based on my positioned I was told to expect to hear something in a week or two after the show, but was surprised by Steve's comment about the initial batch being shipped already. I also was told that the shipment date discussed on the phone will be after it actually shows up at the avionics shop by maybe up to one week to prevent any airplanes going in the shop prior the unit arriving.

I think there's little confusion right now, so I'll hold tight.



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I perceive a significant degree of confusion on this, and there is no doubt that we are seeing dual messaging.

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Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

I'm still out of the office on vacation until Monday, 11 Aug so I'll have to check with the factory guys....

So...any word on when the next batch might be ready to go, and whether pre-buy customers should still expect deliveries in (or before) the months specified in their contracts?
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I *think* we'll be back to shipping the next set by the end of next week.   We've been working on automating a lot of factory testing and *should* be done by then.  I'll make a post as soon as that happens.

We'll go slow for the first few weeks but expect to be caught up in month 2.
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Wondering how deliveries are going?
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From what has been communicated to me there hasn't been any!
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I am in month three and Friday I was told I'm about four months out. This came straight from avidyne sales.
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I am month 2 and told "at current rates" to expect my box at end of September/early October...I'm hopeful but not confident.
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I'm in month 1 and no one has contacted me. I am going to call today and report back what I learn (if anything).
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roltman -- I'm very interested to hear what they say.

I'm in month 3, but all I have is a piece of paper from two years ago.  My address has changed since then, but I'm 90% sure I updated that with somebody at Avidyne last year.  My e-mail hasn't changed.  I just don't have a confirmation that I'm on the list.  I just have a copy of the contract that the salesperson e-mailed me way back when.

I have a whole lot of Garmin fanboy friends who are constantly ridiculing me for waiting so long and tying up my $$ for all this time for the Avidyne unit that may never be seen.  I am waiting for the day when I can unveil my new panel and leave them speechless.  I'm really hoping that it happens by the end of the year.
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I'm month 4, called today and spoke to Brian.

He said that some units have started shipping this week, and that he expects that they will now meet their schedule sequence, going forward. He also confirmed the slower start up than expected due to manufacturing process issues. If so, that would make my ship date early December. Allowing for the Holiday period, at the earliest now, I wouldn't expect my unit to be actually installed until next year.

He said to give him a call in 30 days for an update. Hopefully they can speed things up.

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I think that's close to reality.

Month 1 = 15 Aug - 15 Sep
Month 2 = 16 Sep - 15 Oct
Month 3 = 16 Oct - 15 Nov
Month 4 = 16 Nov - 15 Dec

We will be motivated to make those slots for revenue generation issues to slippage past  the holiday is possible due to any unknown unknowns that might pop up but that is not likely.  (I realize you used "installation" not "shipping" so that's a reasonable assumption on your part).

We restarted shipments last week after we made those manufacturing process improvements.
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Called as promised. Spoke to Brian, he knew my name from shipping details, and said Tina will contact me tomorrow with the firm details, but it's supposed to ship next week. 

If they really rush it and my shop gets by early next week, I can wrap the downtime around a business trip and save a lot $$$$ in the process.

Steve, if you can, be nice to Tina for me :)

Everyone else, I'll keep you posted on the process.

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Steve thanks!  Got the call a day early, spoke with Tina.  My unit will ship Sept 8th for Sept 10th Arrival.

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You lucky dog.

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Confirmed to go in the shop on Sept 12th on my way to a week long business trip and will pick it up on the 19th.

I'll post a real picture that weekend if all goes as planned as I'll have a 600nm flight back from my avionics shop on 19th to fiddle with it.

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Steve,

Can you advise when international shipments will start?

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