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    Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 1:25pm
I notice that there are no markings on the volume knob. Is that because the knob is one of those free wheeling software driven ones, that can't give a relative volume level by its position?

If so, that would be unfortunate. Being able to check the volume level, to ensure it has not been reduced can be critical.

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You can see the volume level by pressing AUX page function key and look on the Audio tab to see the audio volume level.
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Yes, you can also twiddle the knob back and forth, and you'll get a momentary volume bar below the freq. But, at a glance at the panel, it would not be visible.

FEATURE REQUEST

 I'm wondering if there could be a setting to show a visible indication on the screen, if and only if, the volume is below a certain set threshold. One might turn it down momentarily, to make a phone call, or whatever. The danger is in forgetting to reset it.

The indicator might look like this:


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Awesome idea.  More than once I've turned the volume down for some distraction, and discovered too-long later that I forgot...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AviJake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 8:57am
Yah, that's another good idea.  I'll add this one to the list of potential future feature adds.

Thanks!
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You can also press the volume knob and see a scale.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AviJake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 4:00pm
Well George is technically correct but that is a bug that will get resolved at some point.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oskrypuch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 7:05pm
It that a "bug" just in the simulator implementation, or in the unit software itself?

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It's an actual bug.  The push action is to turn squelch on/off.  I am not asking to know the volume of the com and nav settings when I'm turning squelch on/off.

It's a low priority bug and may not get resolved prior to initial cert.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oskrypuch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2014 at 10:46am
Just a thought, might it be made a feature?

Short press = volume bar

longer press = squelch on/off

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I think that is a good idea.

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I don't like that idea.  I'm well-trained by my GNS430 that a short-press is the squelch defeat.  I'd bet a few hundred or thousand other pilots out there probably are, too, and would be discombobulated by different behavior.

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Mystic,

That is a consideration. Well, it could be a short press/release for sq defeat, and a long press for a 10 sec appearance of the the volume indicator.

It was just a thought. I think if we can a visual LOW VOLUME warning, it won't be as important.

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Suppose the short press just happens to display the volume, while toggling the squelch mode (which I infer is the GNS430 behavior, since it's been 10 years since I've flown with one).

One could double-press the button to get *only* the volume display.

On my mechanical knobs devices, I still end up *twisting* them to figure out where the volume is set when the silence becomes disconcerting.  And I always wonder "where did I end up?"  So if this happens a second time, I usually make a radio check.  A visual display (that I can remember as "aha, that's the right level!") in any form is good.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PA20Pacer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 7:51am
On any radio that I have used, a momentary defeat of the squelch provides an aural indication of volume level. I do not see a great need for an additional visual indicator that requires a button push to be activated. A visual indicator that was present at all times, but used negligible display space could be useful.

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I'm kind of impressed and surprised there is this much interest in this particular feature.  As a minimum, it has certainly elevated the topic to be high on the next release feature discussion we'll have internally about 4 1/2 minutes after we get the initial TSO/STC.
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Well, then that IS a good thing.

I have been burned by this once, hence my interest.

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Originally posted by AzAv8r AzAv8r wrote:



On my mechanical knobs devices, I still end up *twisting* them to figure out where the volume is set when the silence becomes disconcerting. 

If the knobs are mechanical, just paint (or decal) a small indicator on the knob. Done. I did this on our SL-30, which does not have an indicator on its mechanical knob, the 430W does.

Of course, most new units have software driven knobs, hence the potential problem.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote phkmn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Originally posted by AzAv8r AzAv8r wrote:



On my mechanical knobs devices, I still end up *twisting* them to figure out where the volume is set when the silence becomes disconcerting. 

If the knobs are mechanical, just paint (or decal) a small indicator on the knob. Done. I did this on our SL-30, which does not have an indicator on its mechanical knob, the 430W does.

Of course, most new units have software driven knobs, hence the potential problem.

* Orest


I've also experienced this problem.  Need a way to know volume level at a glance.
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