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Isn't this just a software update to your existing fielded product?
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Yes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tony Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 7:59pm

you're not changing firmware are you?

Does the change product rule (ac21.101a) apply to you?



Edited by tony - 21 Mar 2014 at 6:10am
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(R9.3 and SynVis Cert Update - 8 Apr 2014)

The latest roadblock in the saga was an FAA issue with the DO-254 cert documents.  It would appear that this issue (they wanted a different set of documentation) should be resolved to their satisfaction some time this week.  As soon as that is resolved, they have pre-authorized TIA to begin.

The FAA has completely delegated TIA back to Avidyne so that formal flight testing should start next week, presuming the DO-254 data is accepted this week.   That should last about a calendar week after which it's just a matter of the FAA signing the STC/TSO approval letters.
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Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

(R9.3 and SynVis Cert Update - 8 Apr 2014)

The latest roadblock in the saga was an FAA issue with the DO-254 cert documents.  It would appear that this issue (they wanted a different set of documentation) should be resolved to their satisfaction some time this week.  As soon as that is resolved, they have pre-authorized TIA to begin.

The FAA has completely delegated TIA back to Avidyne so that formal flight testing should start next week, presuming the DO-254 data is accepted this week.   That should last about a calendar week after which it's just a matter of the FAA signing the STC/TSO approval letters.


So......

R9.3 with SynVis will be available at service centers what, mid-late May assuming the FAA doesn't throw any more unsuspected curveballs at you?  Again?  For the umpteenth time?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AviJake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 7:10pm
I'm too gun shy to make any estimates right now.   This program has been impossible to accurately predict.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote anewbury Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 2014 at 9:51am
Any news yet or still gun-shy ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AviJake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 2014 at 1:50pm
Still gun-shy BUT, we are still in a holding pattern with the FAA on the DO-254 issue.  Until they give us the formal thumbs up that the additional data we supplied a few weeks ago scratches their itch, we can't move on with the last two steps of this cert.

We're ready to run formal flight test the same day we get the FAA go but so far, no approval (or rejection) has come.
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(R9.3 and SynVis Cert Update - 4 May 2014)

I certainly feel like a dope but I have nothing new to report.  The FAA is still hung up on the DO-254 data and won't authorize TIA until they are happy with it.  As soon as that is resolved, they have pre-authorized TIA to begin.

I will note that we haven't made any changes nor have been asked to with respect to DO-254.  The FAA is having internal discussions on the topic.  We have no real insight into what those discussions are and have no ability to predict when this will be done.  It's incredible but true.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AviJake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2014 at 9:41pm
I should note that we haven't made any DO-254 changes in the last month.  We made the documentation changes the FAA asked for a month ago and that's what we haven't heard the feedback on yet.
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Major development came in 4 minutes ago - the FAA has just authorized TIA to begin (and they have formally delegated it to us).

So that means the STC side of the flight testing will commence as soon as we can get a DAR lined up to do FAA conformity.  We have a few days of flight tests to conduct and a short report to write.   That *should* be the last of the STC steps.   We'll see.....
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Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

Major development came in 4 minutes ago - the FAA has just authorized TIA to begin (and they have formally delegated it to us).

So that means the STC side of the flight testing will commence as soon as we can get a DAR lined up to do FAA conformity.  We have a few days of flight tests to conduct and a short report to write.   That *should* be the last of the STC steps.   We'll see.....


So maybe, possibly, but probably not ready for customers in the next 4 weeks?
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Maybe, possibly, but probably not.   


(I hope the "probably not" part is wrong but we hit a roadblock on every baby step in this program so we'll see)
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(R9.3 and SynVis Cert Update - 21 May 2014)
 
R9.3 TIA was completed without a hitch last week.   We had a face-to-face session with the FAA this past Monday (19 May) to sort out the approval delay.
 
The FAA remains hung up on two issues that are preventing issuance of the TSO/STC:
 
1.  They asked for another round of changes to the DO-254 documentation.   There were no actual product changes, just documentation changes that were requested.  We made this 3rd round of document changes and submitted that yesterday for their review.
 
2.  They now require a DO-200A LOA.   This is a letter of authorization vouching for the integrity of the nav data in the system.   When R9 was first certified, RNAV approaches like LPVs were not considered RNP approaches.  Over the last year or so, the FAA has redefined RNP to now include RNAV approaches.  So, that now means that the previously not applicable regs that governed RNP now apply to R9 and one of those requirements calls for this Type 2 LOA letter.   Can't tell you how frustrating this is but we are now cranking out the supporting data that allow issuance of the LOA.   We think this will take 5-6 weeks to get this approved.   If the stars align, it could go faster but there hasn't been any stellar alignment observed on this program to date and it's not inconceivable it will take even longer.  If there is a sliver of good news, the FAA has made it their goal to have this all behind us at or prior to Oshkosh.  So I would anchor current expectations around an Oshkosh TSO/STC date for R9.3.

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Your FSDO is freaking ridiculous - I seriously wonder if Garmin is put through the same level of BS that Avidyne has been. 

I mean really, waiting to NOW to say you need a RNP LOA?  After the past how many months of dealing with this nonsense?

Utter rubbish.
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Are these guys actually going out of their way to screw you to the wall?  There has to be some ulterior motive going on behind all this. Its hard to believe any professional organisation would carry on with this scale of obstruction otherwise.
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Its not the FSDO, its the Boston ACO I think;  and they are ridiculous.  They have put Avidyne through more nugatory events than I have every heard of. 

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Well I will say that the fervor with with the FAA is striving to continously update and enforce the governing rules is one reason why there are so few companies in the world producing certified avionics.
 
As for Garmin being subjected to the same rigor/scrutiny, I think the basic answer is yes.   There are always minor differences from ACO to ACO but at the macro level, I'd say it's a wash.  In fact Garmin often challenge something they think Avidyne "has gotten away with" and we do the same.   For better or worse, that behavior polices a level playing field.
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[quote]Well I will say that the fervor with with the FAA is striving to continously update and enforce the governing rules is one reason why there are so few companies in the world producing certified XXXXXXXXX.{/quote]

You can substitute most anything for avionics, in that sentence, engines, mags, etc.

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Frickin' outrageous.  Honestly.  All this time they've had, and now they ask for another five weeks of work from Avidyne.  FAA needs new management over there.

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(R9.3 and SynVis Cert Update - 30 May 2014)

It's official now, we won't have R9.3 STC cert in June.   The FAA is still highly confident they will have all their approvals signed off prior to Oshkosh but...... reference my 21 May update on the DO-200A business - the local FAA ACO office has asked some FAA folks from the DC office to assist in their DO-200A approval process which includes an on-site audit.   FAA schedule availability for those DC folks has driven a 15, 16, 17 July audit date.  We believe this is a low risk audit but have been unable to accelerate the audit dates so we wait.  All other approvals for the rest of the TSO/STC material are getting checked off in the meantime.
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Will the DO-200 data chain cert affect the IFD540 cert?
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I just read the IFD540 thread, got my answer....

I would have thought the DO-200A would be a Jepp issue....not an avidyne one.  Anyway...Steve, don't get discouraged, its called development.  This stuff happens.



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....and another 3 weeks goes by. Any news?
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(R9.3 and SynVis Cert Update - 27 June 2014)

No change in status.  Everything is "done" but waiting for the DO-200A audit in mid July (15, 16, 17 July).  This is not considered high-risk but the FAA insists on conducting this prior to issuing STC.
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What's the good word - any surprises this week?
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(R9.3 and SynVis Cert Update - 18 July 2014)

DO-200A audit is complete.  There were two documentation findings that we picked up during the outbrief yesterday, have actioned as of today and will submit to the FAA later today or early Monday morning.  The FAA has seen what our intended changes were going to be and agreed that they fully satisfy the two findings.

So, we're anticipating a signed TSO/STC for R9.3 sometime during the week of 21 July.
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Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

So, we're anticipating a signed TSO/STC for R9.3 sometime during the week of 21 July.


Fantastic.

What is the timeline for R9 users enrolled in AeroPlan getting the R9.3 upgrade once the STC *finally* gets approved?

I seem to recall it involves upgrading/exchanging IFDs, but I'm probably wrong...?

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The Sales/Service crew will work the logistics and timeline of each person's upgrade but.....yes, the IFDs will need to cycle through the Avidyne Service Center in Melbourne FL for the upgrade.  

We made a design choice to upgrade the size of the internal memory to support SynVis to ensure we had a high level of performance when crunching all the terrain data that goes into the SynVis scene.   That memory upgrade is not something that can be done in the field.  
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(R9.3 and SynVis Cert Update - 25 Jul 2014)

As some of you may have heard already, we did (finally) receive TSO/STC approval for R9.3 and SynVis.  Thank you all for hanging in there.

You should coordinate with Avidyne Sales/Service and your local Avidyne Service Center for the logistics of getting your airplane updated.
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This is great news!  Finally!
 
How about offering existing R9 users a short class (1-2 hrs) while you guys (and us guys) are up at EAA/Oshkosh in a few weeks?  It would be a shame to waste that opportunity to help existing R9 pilots understand the new features and transition into the new system...  I think it would be well attended and quite appreciated!
 
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We agree and are trying to organize something now.
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