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Originally posted by FlyingCOham FlyingCOham wrote:

AviSteve, any public statements about what new functions MIGHT be in 10.3 ??
It's no secret that RF leg support will be included.  It will have lots of other goodies, but I'll leave that up to your imagination.
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AviSteve, any public statements about what new functions MIGHT be in 10.3 ??
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

10.3 development has been underway for quite a while now.

Excellent - thanks!
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10.3 development has been underway for quite a while now.
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Originally posted by ttvetdoc ttvetdoc wrote:

Now that 10.2.4.1 is in the rearview mirror, at least with regards to the software development team, I was just curious is work on 10.3 is now just starting or whether they have been working on the more 'feature rich' 10.3 update for sometime.  Not looking for any timeline on the release as I know that's impossible to predict.


Even though I have no relationship with Avidyne other than owning an IFD440, I'm going to answer for AviSteve and Avidyne on this one :-)

Any software company that doesn't have a roadmap laid out for the next several years on what features, fixes, wizbang additions they want to include and are including is a company that won't be around very long.

I wouldn't be surprised if Avidyne already has version, say 10.4.0.0 already moved out of their development lab and in a test aircraft and other developers are already working on 10.4.1.0.

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Now that 10.2.4.1 is in the rearview mirror, at least with regards to the software development team, I was just curious is work on 10.3 is now just starting or whether they have been working on the more 'feature rich' 10.3 update for sometime.  Not looking for any timeline on the release as I know that's impossible to predict.
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An old sage once said, "All working software is not thoroughly tested." ( :> )
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Originally posted by Flybuddy Flybuddy wrote:

Why the rush? Updates can be expensive, risky, inconvenient and time consuming for many IFD owners. These aren't Ipads and shouldn't be treated as such.
I wouldn't rush Avidyne as I'd prefer they be completely bug free.


Although regression testing is a good thing and tends to squash a lot of bugs, nothing is every bug free, especially when you get to this level of complexity, there will always be a one off situation that triggers a bug.

The trick usually becomes how to gracefully recover from encountering a bug.

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Why the rush? Updates can be expensive, risky, inconvenient and time consuming for many IFD owners. These aren't Ipads and shouldn't be treated as such.
I wouldn't rush Avidyne as I'd prefer they be completely bug free.
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I'm running a version or two behind (no Boeing Banana) - any idea when the small bugfix release might come out?
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No mention has been made when 10.3 will be and Avidyne does not normally announce these dates in advance.  They have been burned too often by impatient customers when their dates were not met.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

I can safely say that 10.3 will not be in February.

Bummer, how soon after Feb? I need to pay the shops about $300 for their time to do the upgrades and I’m on a budget so I’d like to only do 10.3 if it is before May/June. 
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I can safely say that 10.3 will not be in February.
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Originally posted by skybum02 skybum02 wrote:

Is it safe to say 10.3 will be in February?  I go into annual at the end of Feb and my shop is an Avidyne dealer, so it is a convenient time to do the update. 


I think AviSteve said 10.3 would in 2020, but I didn't hear a month.

There is a apparently a mini-update, bug-fix only, 10.2.4.1 coming before that.

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Is it safe to say 10.3 will be in February?  I go into annual at the end of Feb and my shop is an Avidyne dealer, so it is a convenient time to do the update. 
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by skybum02 skybum02 wrote:

What min software version will I need to be at to upgrade to 10.3 without an intermediary update? 
It's a little early for that, but I don't expect there to be any minimum version to upgrade.  The farther out of date you are, though, the longer the update will take.
... although, if you are still at 10.0, there's quite a bit more to the process, including removal, reprogramming, and replacement of an SD card.  I'm not sure if that's what you meant by "intermediary upgrade", but just so you know...

I’m only 1 or two behind the current version. 
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by skybum02 skybum02 wrote:

What min software version will I need to be at to upgrade to 10.3 without an intermediary update? 
It's a little early for that, but I don't expect there to be any minimum version to upgrade.  The farther out of date you are, though, the longer the update will take.
... although, if you are still at 10.0, there's quite a bit more to the process, including removal, reprogramming, and replacement of an SD card.  I'm not sure if that's what you meant by "intermediary upgrade", but just so you know...
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Thanks Steve, you guys are the greatest.  I really wouldn't have been seen in public with a Garmin hat.  I did use it to wash the car though.


Here is a pic of my current panel before the next upgrade in February.
Woo Hoo!!!
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Right Steve, but still nice to have you reconfirm its in 10.3. :-)
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Originally posted by skybum02 skybum02 wrote:

So, RF aren’t in 10.3? Not that there are any I would fly routinely, But it’s only a matter of time. 
I took Vince's post as tongue-in-cheek based on the Captain's post.  RF is still scheduled for 10.3.
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Originally posted by skybum02 skybum02 wrote:

What min software version will I need to be at to upgrade to 10.3 without an intermediary update? 
It's a little early for that, but I don't expect there to be any minimum version to upgrade.  The farther out of date you are, though, the longer the update will take.
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Originally posted by chflyer chflyer wrote:

Oh dear, it looks like RF legs (10.4) is a very long way off indeed. :-(

So, RF aren’t in 10.3? Not that there are any I would fly routinely, But it’s only a matter of time. 
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Would be nice, but no it will be next year.  There will be a very minor release coming soon - 10.2.4.1.  It has a few bug fixes, but no significant new features.  I'll have release notes as it gets nearer.

What min software version will I need to be at to upgrade to 10.3 without an intermediary update? 


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That IS quite a story.

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Awesome story, thanks for sharing!!!  It sounds exciting for you.
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Oh dear, it looks like RF legs (10.4) is a very long way off indeed. :-(
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Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Originally posted by Kentucky Captain Kentucky Captain wrote:

Going for the Aspen Max upgrade and while there, pulling the STEC30, AXP340, SkyTrax100.  Installing STEC55X, L3 NGT9000, and a few other goodies.


You are taking your signature line seriously! ;-)

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Apparently so.  In addition to the above mentioned items, I'm replacing the stock Cessna fuel senders with CIES digital senders.  They have to send the JPI EDM900 back to the factory for conversion from analog to digital so while there they are going to add Carb temp to it.  I am also replacing the stock flap indicator with the Visual Instruments LED indicator.  Also thinking about ditching the standby vacuum attitude indicator for something new.

I know that I already have way too much money invested in this plane so at this point, I'm not worrying about it, I just do what makes me happy.

My son and his wife live in Germany and it will be many years, if ever that they move back but I just found out last December that I have a daughter that I never knew about.  I was in the USAF as a Boomer in the KC-135 and was deployed a lot.  One deployment, when I came home, my girlfriend was gone. Her parents said she moved back to SC and married her high school sweetheart. I moved on.  She never told me nor my daughter that I was her father.  She found me through DNA testing.  I have a son-in-law and two more grandchildren.  It's been awesome and they are even moving to Louisville next summer.  One of the things we did while they visited last summer was to go flying.  She was an officer in the Air Force but didn't get to fly.  She loved it and when they went back home, her company, USAA, is now paying for her to get a degree in aviation, which will include PPL, Instrument, Commercial, and CFI.  When she is done with the private part, her husband will work towards his.

My thoughts at this point is to make the C172 into a generational plane.  It's a nice bird and already has a nice panel.  After this upgrade, the next thing will be interior, then paint, and eventually a 180 hp upgrade.  My goal is to make it better than new and keep it in the family for a long time.

I have also been talking to a friend that wants to buy something faster than his Carbon Cub for travel and we have been considering a partnership to do that.  Oh boy, another airplane to spend money on.
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Originally posted by Kentucky Captain Kentucky Captain wrote:

Going for the Aspen Max upgrade and while there, pulling the STEC30, AXP340, SkyTrax100.  Installing STEC55X, L3 NGT9000, and a few other goodies.


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The way it always works for me is that the release always comes out just after getting my plane out of the shop.  In that case, the next release will happen at the end of February when I will be able to retrieve my bird from its latest overhaul.

Going for the Aspen Max upgrade and while there, pulling the STEC30, AXP340, SkyTrax100.  Installing STEC55X, L3 NGT9000, and a few other goodies.
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Would be nice, but no it will be next year.  There will be a very minor release coming soon - 10.2.4.1.  It has a few bug fixes, but no significant new features.  I'll have release notes as it gets nearer.
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I know when Steve was mentioning the outlook for updates at the beginning of this year (prior to the official release of 10.2.3.1) he mentioned the faint possibility of 10.3 before the end of the year.  I'm not looking for any definitive dates or deadlines, but I was curious how 10.3 is coming along and if it's looking more like early next year, mid, etc.

Thanks,

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