New IFD simulator app & 10.2.3.x firmware update

A few things to be aware of:

1) The IFD100 and trainer apps do NOT need to be the same version (as confirmed by AviSteve above).  10.2.2.0.A on the IFD100 and 10.2.1.0 on the trainer work just fine together.

2) Even with the same Jeppesen databases downloaded on the two iPads (or not downloaded at all, I would assume), you can't start one of the apps by logging into Jeppesen and not do the same with the other.  BUT, you can just start both apps by not logging into Jeppesen and everything works fine.  This is helpful because then you don't have to keep switching from an internet connection back to the Stratus 2s.  Leave it on the Stratus 2s and bypass the Jeppesen login and it works just great.

3) Although both of my iPads are running the same iOS version (I'm still on 11.4.1 because of issues that keep popping up with the 12 generation), I suspect it doesn't matter at all if the iPads are running different iOS versions so long as they are sufficiently current to run the app versions properly.

4) I dislike intensely having to try to troubleshoot these kinds of issues, so I'm not going to bother trying to figure out why my DLink router won't let the two apps talk to each other.  I'll just keep using the Stratus 2s as the WIFI server when I want to run the two apps together.

5) Avidyne produces great boxes and knows how to support the avionics functions of those boxes extremely well.  However, when it comes to networking and WIFI issues, those clearly are not Avidyne's strong suit.  I've had more problems with IFD boxes trying to get WIFI to work properly (one box finally had to be replaced because of a COM issue and that also resolved the WIFI issues I was having with that box), and that continues to the present where my current IFD keeps disconnecting from the Lynx WIFI network that I use to communicate with my iPad Pro and Foreflight.  My experience is that Avidyne tech reps try their best to resolve these issues, but often with apparently incomplete information and insufficient technical background in network and WIFI issues, often suggesting causes and solutions that frankly don't make any sense in the networking/WIFI environment.

6) I'm liking this IFD100 functionality enough that I think I'll use the iPad mini running just the IFD100 app (as has been previously noted, trying to run the IFD100 app and Foreflight on the same iPad does NOT work well as bringing up one disconnects the other, so it is not a seamless solution).

7) BTW AviSteve, it would be very helpful if the IFD100 app could be configured to show more backup COM frequencies like the box does.  I like to have at least three, and sometimes four, COM frequencies showing so I can enter in and select those as I'm moving through busy airspace.  Presently, it does not appear the backup COM datablocks can be enabled on the IFD100 app.

EDIT:  And why can't the local time offset be changed on the IFD100 app either?

Steve Lindsley just posted on 4 March at 9:48 that "It should work, we run those two versions together all the time."

If you're right, though, that would explain why I can't get those versions of the Trainer and the IFD100 to work together.

Best,

David

networked, with the WIFI. If so would I set the PC trainer the same if I was using 2 ipads?

Also have a Stratus 2, anywayto set that up at home, to see how interactions might go.

Thanks for any insight.

Best,

David

I am running the latest App Store versions of both the Trainer (10.2.1.0) and the IFD100 (10.2.2.0.A) that are currently available.  Both are loaded with the latest Jepp downloads.  Both iPads are running iOS 12.1.4.

Why doesn't this work?

One thought that just came to mind is if there is something in your fritzbox wifi setup. Just being able to ping from one device to another might not be enough if you have some sort of protection on the wifi such as specific tcp ports or packet types being blocked, etc. A ping just sends a udp packet. That would also explain why the IFD100 talks to the in-panel unit fine as it is a different wifi network without any hub/router.

I've seen another thread that a new IFD100 app version is "imminent" (i.e. Youtube video posted), so perhaps that will resolve your problem.

Thank you very much for your help!

I really double and tripe checked everything

- latest version

- same database

- same iOS

- same WIFO network.

- #1 setting correct

- IFD440 selected in settings

... but no connection and no WIFI symbol on IFD100

Have a nice weekend! Thanks again!

Me too! I even managed to guess my daughter's password ... but same reulst on her iPad. NO WIFI symbol ...

The strange thing is that it works perfectly in the airplane. But since the weather is so bad I'd like to practice a bit :-)

All that looks the same ... except the missing WIFI symbol. I borrowed my daughter's iPad now and will try again ...

Update: Can't do that either, don't have her password :-)

What's odd: On the screenshots in the IFD100 manual I cannot see a WIFI symbol in the IFD100.

Could you send me a screenshot?

I have now tried everything ... no luck. No WIFI symbol, no sync!

No WIFI symbol on the IFD100 ... but full strength WIFI symbol on the iPad itself.

Is there a WIFI setting somewhere in the IFD100? If so then I cannot find it.

I also do have the WIFI symbol in the Trainer, it also turns to GREEN after a while, and confirm for the "ALLOW" screen on the trainer. All fine ...

Deleted and re-installed IFD100: no WIFI symbol.

Looks like the databases stayed on the iPad when I deleted the app ... no new downloaded necessary.

I'm running 12.0.1 iOS, but that would be the last thing I would expect to be the problem and Avidyne would need to answer if they both work on 12.0.1 but not on 12.1.1 iOS.

  

Let's do some troubleshooting:

What app versions do you have? This can be seen on the ipad's under Settings/General/iPad Storage/ and then scrolling down and clicking on the app. For the IFD100 this should be 10.2.5 and for the IFD Trainer this should be 10.2.2.

What settings do you have for the IFD Trainer (Aircraft Type, Device Type)?

What settings do you have for the iFD100 (IFD Type, IFD Chassis ID#, iPad ID#)?

Does the IFD Trainer present the Allow button for wifi & BT when you start it up? Once it's running, are the BT and wifi icons next to GPS at upper right corner green? This takes a minute or so to happen. 

Is the wifi icon on the IFD100 also green? If you start the IFD100 first and then the IFD Trainer, the wifi icon should be flashing green with a grey barred circle (like "do not" on road signs) which should turn green as soon as the IFD Trainer wifi icon turns green. At the same time, the red X on the freq boxes should be replaced by the IFD Trainer primary and standby freq.

What software version is showing on the two devices? Both should have s/w 10.2.1.0. The Sys ID on the IFD Trainer should be the same as on the IFD100 (see above and on both devices AUX/SYS/Software Status LSK).

Let me know if all that checks out, or where you see different behaviour.

I just replicated your config (ipad air2 running IFD Trainer, ipad mini 4 running IFD100) and it works flawlessly.