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Heard it "through the grapevine", Jepp prices are about to drop noticeably ?????
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The new FF support for Jepp charts could be a game-changer here and make charts on the IFDxxx a lot less attractive economically (but only for ithingy users).

If one already has a Jepp subscription, one can also access it under FF, but each device uses up a Jepp subscription device count.

Without a Jepp subscription one can get the Jepp charts by paying FF directly for them, on as many FF devices as one wants. The coverage I've checked is about 1/2 the cost on FF as for a corresponding Jepp subscription. Another FF advantage in Europe is a combined IFR/VFR coverage option, which Jepp will not sell. The disadvantage is that the FF route doesn't include charts on the IFDxxx.
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Yep.  That was the problem.  

Even after i went thru this with the Jep folks at SnF.  Grr...  I passed on the extra few hundred on TOP Of the almost $100 / month that I paid them for this year.    (3 TIMES what I pay for XM weather, BTW...)

The one REALLY useful feature would have been to have the charts on the ipad.   *sigh*.  

I'll wait at least till the next version of the ipad app comes out and squashes a few more bugs. 

I haven't figured out how I would have had the IFD100 / foreflight apps up without a second ipad, anyway. 


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Jepp does offer two different bundle packages.  The first is the standard Service Suite which includes, nav, terrain, obstacles and charts and that is priced at $1000.  The second is called the Service Suite "Plus" which adds the JeppView PFD for $1300.

The standard package does not port over charts into the IFD100, but the "plus" package does. 

I think this explains why some have charts and others don't.

Just spoke with Jepp and they have confirmed, also indicated that they are currently in discussions with Avidyne so maybe there is some resolution on the horizon.
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I forget what I have exactly, but I do use Jepp's software, so have four "seats". IFD100 has all its charts, and I have the Jepp viewer on the tablet.

Is there another Jepp package level above the Jepp Service Bundle Suite?

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Just to update my quoted post:  I had brought up this subject with Avidyne at Sun N Fun and was told they were aware of this and the Avidyne CEO would be talking with Jepp to resolve.  I still don't have access to charts on the IFD100 app, so I assume nothing has changed.  According to the reps at Sun N fUN if you have a subscription to charts (Jepp Service Bundle Suite) for the iFD540/440 you then should be able to load on the IFD100.  Jepp has taken the position, that in my case I need to purchase the optional Jepp Mobile FD (Jepp's overpriced version of Foreflight) package in order to port over charts to the ipad.   

Maybe this is a good time for Simpson to give us an update
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I bought the Dual 540 package from Jeppeson, for one year.  Apparently, it came with only 2 chart downloads.  I'll call them on Monday, and let you know what I find out. 

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What about this in the "Jepp data download difficulty thread"?

Originally posted by skycobra skycobra wrote:

I posted issues with charts data in the 540 forum section but I see this is a better place.   My electronic charts do not show up in the Jepp portal, however I do have the full Avidyne subscription with electronic charts.  I called Jepp and was told that I need to spend another $247 to get charts.

Simpson, can you clarify.

I've seen no response, so concluded that this is the case.....  sounds like sometimes yes, sometimes no. Typical Jeppesen.
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Vince -

The IFD100 downloads came without any additional fees from Jepp.  There was one package purchase price for the two installed units and paper enroute charts.

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Originally posted by chflyer chflyer wrote:

David, David,

Did you need to pay additional to get the charts on the IFD100? There are reports here that Jepp is requesting an additional fee for them.


I didn't pay anything beyond my chart subscription.

Are you sure they are charging you for charts?  Or for device licenses?
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David, David,

Did you need to pay additional to get the charts on the IFD100? There are reports here that Jepp is requesting an additional fee for them.
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I also have dual units, 550 and 440.  In the IFD100 app, the Jepp downloads appear immediately upon logging in to Jepp.
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David - 

Thanks.  Nope No charts on Jepp screen at login.  
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As I suspected.    Thanks for confirming!

Calling Jepp now. 

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Just as a suggestion:
On the data download screen for your IFD100 app, is there an option to download charts?

If there isn't, it is a Jepp issue.  If there is, then the charts should download.

I have dual IFD 540s and have charts on the IFD100, no issues.
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I bought the FULL package from Jepp for my two IFD-540s.  I still have no charts on the IFD100?  REALLY?      Am I doing something wrong?   Do I need to call Jeppeson? 

Glad to see a new version of the IFD100 released the other day!

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