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AviSimpson
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Hey all, I created a new forum for any questions about the upcoming IFD100 mobile app.
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oskrypuch
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Hmm, and just when might it be of use to us all?????
Any announcements coming at AEA?
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AviSimpson
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Well it seems the questions are piling up in the 10.2 about the IFD100 so I figured I would centralize the effort.
The only announcement at AEA is the Boeing Banana for iPad IFD100 users ;) I couldn't resist.
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AviJake
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I think a lot of folks "get" the utility of this capability. I like to think I'm not often susceptible to hyperbole but here comes a clear violation of that.
This capability is unbelievable. For me, it completely changes the game in managing my cockpit tasks, especially those involving avionics and their role in your flight. I fly test flights with a dual IFD set up and either one or two iPads running IFD100 and of course the Bluetooth keyboard. I try combos like: 1 IFD5XX, 1 IFD100, 1 Bluetooth keyboard 1 IFD440, 1 IFD100, 1 Bluetooth keyboard 1 IFD540, 1 IFD440, 1 IFD100, 1 Bluetooth keyboard 1 IFD550, 1 IFD540, 1 IFD100, 1 Bluetooth keyboard 1 IFD550, 1 IFD540, 2 IFD100, 1 Bluetooth keyboard When flying the 550, 540, 100, 100, keyboard combo, it's just sick. It is the full glass cockpit experience. I apologize ahead of time for any jealousy this may create - patience will have to remain virtuous. I will also say we are pulling the oars as fast as we can to get this all done and shipping and in your hands. I have three to four pages I typically use in flight so I set each device up to be on one of those pages so I really don't have to touch them at all in flight. I also am addicted to the Designated Waypoint Info datablock in Release 10.2 and I actually set up a different Designated Waypoint in each device so I have 4 running at all times. The spatial/positional awareness that provides is a quantum leap in capability all by itself. I personally mount one iPad Mini to the yoke in front of me. I put a second iPad Mini on the other yoke and adjust it to be facing me or I put it on my kneeboard on my right leg. I'm about to create a mounting scheme where I can mount a full sized iPad over my instrument panel instruments that are right in front of me. I can literally snap the iPad over the instruments. That leaves the original instruments untouched and still there if I ever need them in the heat of the moment. Zero mechanical impact to your airplane and no impact to the cert basis. You can see where we're going with respect to legacy airplane upgrades - leave your steam gauges alone, put in one or two pedigreed IFDs in the center stack and just snap mobile devices over existing panel. Augment that set up with desired peripherals like ADS-B devices and voila. The IFD100 app enables all of this. Here are a few action shots I took yesterday during a flight. It was just me, it was very bumpy, it was an iPhone, and I'm not related to Ansel Adams. I like to set up taxi chart on the iPad - it's bigger, closer to me and obviously supports pinch zoom. Here is a shot showing the Map Syn Vis feature that everybody gets on their IFDs (all flavors) as part of 10.2.0.0. Note my keyboard on my kneeboard (remember that I can do full page navigation now using that with 10.2): Here's a picture of what FLTA terrain alerts look like on the IFD100. Note that the picture was taken the instant it went to red warning and the CAS message was presented a split second after the picture was taken. Here's a shot of both IFD100s running on the two iPads with flight plan page pulled up so you can see the sync'd flight plans. You may also be able to see one of the GoPro's I have mounted in the airplane in the reflection of the right iPad. When I get some time, we hope to post some videos of this stuff in action from the GoPros. And here's a shot of my standard config when shooting an approach. 550 is in SVS page, 540 is in Chart view, IFD100 in Flight Plan page, and 2nd IFD100 (out of view from picture) on Map page. Note the glideslope/path indicators in the IFD550, the runway in the distance and the velocity vector which is on the runway. I just shake my head on these approaches and wonder why I even need to be in the cockpit - I do nothing other than watch a cool show. Approximately zero pilotage skills required. Edited by AviJake - 17 Apr 2016 at 12:18am |
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AviJake
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A few operational notes about the IFD100.
1. We've made the changes in the app to now allow full com sync'ing and control from the IFD100. Unlike dual panel mount IFDs which have no ability to control and display the other box's VHF radio, the IFD100 is able to control and display VHF com on the panel IFD that it's connected to via WiFi. That's two-way so if you make the change on the panel IFD, the iPad version changes to follow. 2. The SVS page is not present on the IFD100 if it is not connected to and IFD550 via WiFi. You still get the exocentric view for Map-SVS but not the out-the-window egocentric SVS view. 3. Aurals are now playing via the iPad too. So you have the option to turn those on/off on the iPad. 4. The IFD100 now knows if the panel IFD it's connected to is in Demo mode or actual flight mode and can automatically alter itself to follow. So that means the IFD100 will "fly" a demo profile also if the panel IFD is in demo mode. Another fantastic booth demo and ground training aid. |
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brou0040
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With #1, are we able to have more VHF comm slots on the IFD100 than on the 540? It seems that if they are sync'd, this may not work. If you have nav and comm on the 540, do you have to have nav and comm on the 100? I was speculating that I'd like to have nav and comm on the 540 as I do now and then have additional comm frequencies stacked up on the 100, is this possible? Thanks for the pics and looking forward to the video. Minor suggestion, rotate the pictures so they are easier to view. |
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AviJake
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The active and the #1 standby freqs are the two that are sync'd between the IFD100 and panel mount IFD. All the extra standbys are not sync'd so you can put up to three extra standby in each of the IFDs (e.g. an IFD540 and an IFD100 combo can have a total of 6 un-sync'd standbys).
I posted from my phone and struggled with trying to rotate the pix and finally gave up. Will try to rotate any further pix prior to posting from a PC. |
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pburger
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I just don't understand the need for NAV/COM at all on the IFD-100, since it isn't actually a radio. I see the IFD100 as more of an extra display, rather than a remote control device, but maybe I'm missing something? I should always be in arm's reach of my NAV/COM, so why do I need to twiddle the knobs on the iPAD to change frequencies? Also, I would hate for a co-pilot or passenger to accidentally change my frequency while "playing" with the iPad. I plan to eliminate the frequencies from the display altogether on the IFD100. This is possible, right?
Thanks for the pictures Steve. My neck is sore from the rotated shots, but it looks so very cool! My problem is going to be placement of the iPad in the cockpit. I'll make room somehow... |
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brou0040
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If you have the nav/comm setup you like on the 540, I'd agree there would be no need for frequencies on the 100. Personally, I've wanted to have additional comm frequencies many times, but I don't want to give up the nav frequencies so I end up only having active and standby comm. I was hoping I could have the additional comm frequencies on the 100.
Does the #1 standby between the 540 and 100 sync regardless of their respective location on the screen? I've never used more than one standby, but the manual states that whichever one is touched is the #1 standby. In that case, If I had only active and standby on the 540 and 4 comms on the 100, I'd just select whichever freq I want on the 100, which makes it the #1 standby, which pushes it to the standby on the 540 and I can hit the swap from there? Your examples just happen to have the #1 standby on the 100 as being the second frequency (same order as on the panel mount). Can you make a comment on the general horsepower required for a 100 tablet? My guess is that the iPad and Surface Pro are way overkill. Is there a lot of processing required to run the 100 or is it pretty tame in the background?
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MysticCobra
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Nifty. And unavailable to 80% of tablet owners, like me. Rats.
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LANCE
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Thankfully the IFD100 will now be available to a higher percentage of tablet users than the old news you quote from the 3rd quarter of last year. iPad sales shot back up in the last quarter of 2015. 1st quarter 2016 results will be reported in less than 10 days and should also be up with the two new iPad Pro models - two of the best products Apple has ever made. http://www.statista.com/statistics/269915/global-apple-ipad-sales-since-q3-2010/ Spending $279 for a refurbished iPad Air (or $229 for a iPad mini) seems like a small price to pay for all of the benefits of IFD100 app. You can do it anonymously so no one knows. http://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/product/FD788/refurbished-ipad-air-wi-fi-16gb-silver
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AviJake
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It's the #1 standby that is sync'd. You can make any of the standby slots the #1 standby simply by touching it. That leaves you up to 3 more standby slots to do with what you please. Those additional standby slots do not sync so you can have up to three per IFD550/545/540/510/440/410/100. I think we'll characterize the required horsepower with more precision over the coming weeks. It is running the full IFD code including the gigantic terrain database so it is a bit of a memory and processing hog. Edited by AviJake - 17 Apr 2016 at 1:09am |
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oskrypuch
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Steve,
You mentioned that you were running it on the Surface, was that the 4 or the 3? It ran "all right" there?
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AviJake
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I happen to have a Surface Pro 4 and it runs fine there. |
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I stumbled on a work around for the rotated pics on the Mac (I haven't tried this on a Windows machine, so I don't know if it also works there). Right click on the photo and select "View Image". This rotates the photo right side up and stretches it to fit the browser window. So, not only do you not have to turn you head, the picture is larger. Hit the back button when your done.
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oskrypuch
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You can also just right click, and "open image in new tab". Most browsers will have some way to handle it.
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comancheguy
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Steve -
This all looks great. Question: That top box, in your pic, is an IFD-550, I assume? That left most bottom button, on the IFD-550s that I have seen, says: "SVS". Your pic says, "PFD"???? Care to comment? Ken
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Gring
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I'm pretty sure the button was relabeled from PFD in the early prototypes to SVS in the later boxes.
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"A man could watch a lot of TV in a plane like that."
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AviJake
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Yes, Geoffrey is correct. Production units are "SVS". My development box still has the old "PFD".
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?? I thought the G500/600 and IFD540 were a nogo?
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AviJake
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I don't understand. The IFD integrates very nicely with the G500/600. |
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Supposedly the combination is not covered under Garmin stc?
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AviJake
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Well that's true but also irrelevant. The STC that covers the IFD-series explicitly includes the G500/600. This is pretty typical - the STC newcomer is responsible for testing and showing compatibility and compliance. |
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One of the features I love about foreflight is geo-referencing on approach plates. My IFD440 cannot display charts. When IFD100 is released, will the iPad running IFD100, coupled to an IFD440 have the ability to display charts? Or, will I need to switch to Foreflight during approaches for georeferencing on the plates?
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AviJake
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Unless something goes south in the next few weeks, the combination of an IFD440 and an IFD100 will be capable of displaying geo-referenced Jepp Charts on the IFD100.
That's a combo I use all the time right now. |
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dubs
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Awesome. I see IFD100 being of the greatest utility to those with limited panel space, like myself, restricted to the dimensions of the IFD440. Although I've had the IFD440 for a short time, I think that IFD100 will be a game changer.
Although, if Avidyne simultaneously solves the issue of feeding ADS-B In data from the MLB100 to an iPad running Foreflight, it might make for an interesting choice. There's something to be said for running redundant systems, even though one of them is for situation awareness only. Excuse my prolific posting. I'm home with walking pneumonia this weekend, but would much rather be flying, playing with the IFD440. |
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My guess would be that in order to do this, you'd have to subscribe to the chart data from Jepp, which dubs probably doesn't if he only has the 440. With the IFD100 being just another IFD in the cockpit with respect to Jepp subscriptions, I assume it will only display what you have a subscription for.
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I suspect you're correct. My charts on Foreflight are geo-referenced and they're far less expensive than adding Jepp charts to the Avidyne bundle. I had the full bundle at first but this year I didn't renew the chart portion of the bundle because I never used the charts on my IFD540. But now, the Jepp chart subscription on our IFD540s will be far more useful since it will be repeated on the iPad through the IFD100... Mike
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Another relevant data point is that Jepp reportedly was going to make its iPad FD app compatible with the IFDs. Another Bonanza pilot was told recently, however, that the new CEO at Jepp has put all development efforts on hold; improvements to the FD app as well as presumably compatability between the app and the IFDs.
Maybe the IFD100 will make all of this superfluou, or at least one can hope. EDIT: That "intel" came from Jepp customer service.
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AviJake
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Total hogwash with respect to Jepp-Avidyne integrations underway.
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What will be IFD100's capability to display OBS, and can this be toggled without changing the panel mounted display of active flight plan?
Tom W.
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No, just like what happens with two panel mount IFDs, if you change the nav source on one unit (panel mount or tablet version), the connected unit will follow.
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n7ifr
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Thanks Steve.
Any capability with v10.2 and dual IFD's to display of OBS on IFD#2 independent of #1 IFD and continue with Flight Plan guidance to HDG bug from IFD#1 (converse of note in new 10.2 manual pp 5-10)? Tom W.
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AviJake
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I'll double check in the next day or two but no, I wouldn't expect that. It's a two-way nav source sync mechanism. You change the nav source on any box in a connected system, and all the other connected units should follow.
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Will you be able to have two IFD 100's running with just one IFD 540
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AviSimpson
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Yes! I'll ask Jake to post some photos.
Edited by AviSimpson - 11 May 2016 at 11:38am |
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Jake or Simpson, I have an ifd 540 and an Aspen 1000 pro with an acu2 in my bonanza. Very happy with both except the screen on the aspen is small for my 60 yr old eyes. If I upgraded to an ifd 550, could I import gps nav data (glideslope and cdi) to display on the ifd 100/ipad along with the attitude to assist in flying an lpv approach. I realize that that the ifd550/100 is not approved as a backup attitude ref since it doesn't have a battery backup. I'm sure there are many other pilots with similar equipment. Thanks, Jim.
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All of the data that displays on the 550 can/will display on the IFD100. So in the case of the IFD550-IFD100 combo, the GPS CDI and glideslope deviation indicators will be displayed on the IFD100. If you download the draft IFD550 Pilot Guide from our website, you can see exactly what it looks like on the IFD550 and therefore know what it looks like on the IFD100.
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Steve,
So, when the IFD100 is displaying either the 540 or 550 "data", will the subscription Jepp plates also display on the iPad IFD100 and if so, maybe there is a way (on the iPad) to rotate for Track-Up... Wishful thinking? Tom Wolf
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Yes Jepp charts can be displayed on the IFD100 app (see an example image up above on my 16 Apr post, albeit a taxi chart but that's just the picture I took) but no, we don't provide a track up view of charts on the IFD100. It behaves exactly as if it were a panel mount unit for that behavior.
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Thanks Steve - Can't wait for v10.2 and the IFD100 iPad update. Maybe in future update "Track Up" will be an option - probably has to come from Jepp??
Unrelated to this thread, comparing my 540's to 550, any update on future cost of upgrade costs? Thanks Tom Wolf
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Yes, geo-referenced track up charts will be a Jepp thing.
As for 540 --> 550 upgrade path, Avidyne Sales and Marketing are just about to publish the plan. We have a separate thread for that on this forum where the info will be posted. They expect to publish it externally this coming week I believe.
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Any update on the release of v10.2, the release of the 550, and the IFD100 app? It's almost September!
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I'm staring at my screen trying to come up with an update that will be interesting and useful but can't come up with one.
The best I can supply is: + Development is long since complete + FAA for-credit testing started weeks ago + There are no known show stoppers - we just have to work through the myriad of end-game tasks between us and the FAA
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Thanks!
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Your update was interesting, useful, and short. Thank you. |
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Is there any update to this yet ?
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