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    Posted: 01 May 2024 at 11:59pm
I'm hoping someone from Avidyne can chime in with some insight on something I've been curious about...

In 10.3 when you connect a mobile device like an iPad to the IFD, you have to go into user settings on the IFD, locate the device in the list, and set it to ALLOW. But the devices in the list are listed by their I: address.....which will potentially change when they connect on a different flight.

So the question is, when you ALLOW a device, is the IFD really only remembering the IP address to allow, or is it behind the scenes remembering the MAC address of the device and allowing that? The MAC would remain static, so even if the IP address changed, the IFD would still be able to identify and allow the mobile device without user intervention.

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It uses mac address behind the scenes.
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Thanks for the confirmation!
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Originally posted by jimmyz80 jimmyz80 wrote:

The MAC would remain static, so even if the IP address changed, the IFD would still be able to identify and allow the mobile device without user intervention.

Note:  I learned recently that it's NOT necessarily true that a device's MAC address will remain static.

I was having trouble getting my Samsung phone to connect to my IFD, and finally figured out that it had a "MAC randomization" setting that defaulted to "on", apparently for privacy/security reasons.  Once I disabled that setting, I was able to see the phone's MAC address properly and allow it permission in the IFD to connect.


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Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

Originally posted by jimmyz80 jimmyz80 wrote:

The MAC would remain static, so even if the IP address changed, the IFD would still be able to identify and allow the mobile device without user intervention.

Note:  I learned recently that it's NOT necessarily true that a device's MAC address will remain static.

I was having trouble getting my Samsung phone to connect to my IFD, and finally figured out that it had a "MAC randomization" setting that defaulted to "on", apparently for privacy/security reasons.  Once I disabled that setting, I was able to see the phone's MAC address properly and allow it permission in the IFD to connect.

Had a safety pilot using an iphone with the randomize mac address feature on also -- pain in the ass.. 

I seriously wish that in a future release, Avidyne makes it optional to enable these "security" features. -- i can see that they would be useful in a commercial environment, but for my little part 91 airplane, its just a pita.
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From my previous IT Security background, I believe that access control and other security features, especially inside an airplane, are non-negotiable items - it really should be restrictive as possible. Having to fix your device MAC address in order to connect to your panel is a small price to pay.
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