R9.4 Busted Altitude

Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic

   I busted an altitude the other day because my R9 behaved in a strange manner.  I am wondering if others have seen this behavior, if it's a bug, or if there is a better operating procedure.
I was hand flying at an assigned altitude of 5,100 (which was the MVA for the area) and decided to engage the AP to review an approach plate.   I was slightly above 5,100 at the time - probably 5,120 or 5,140.  5,100 was already dialed into the altitude field.  I hit the VS button to engage the altitude.  The button turned green, the VS field on the display went to -500, and the ALT button turned blue.  I turned my attention to the approach plate, and when I looked back I was at 4,950 and descending.  

On a more recent VFR flight I tried to repeat this scenario - at 14,500 feet but otherwise similar.  I found that most of the time the descent (or ascent if I was slightly below) stopped at 14,500 but about one time in 20 the AP would go right through the altitude.

Is my procedure correct here?  My understanding is that if I hit the ALT button, the AP will just hold my current altitude - even if its not quite what is dialed in, so I have been using either the IAS button or VS button to engage the AP to hold the set altitude.  Is this the right procedure?  Is there a better way to command the AP to hold the set altitude when you are slightly off from it?

Has anyone else seen this behavior?  

Edited by billd17 - 10 Sep 2019 at 6:18pm

Author	Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic
billd17 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 22 Jan 2019 Location: Nevada Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote billd17 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: R9.4 Busted Altitude Posted: 10 Sep 2019 at 6:17pm
	I busted an altitude the other day because my R9 behaved in a strange manner. I am wondering if others have seen this behavior, if it's a bug, or if there is a better operating procedure. I was hand flying at an assigned altitude of 5,100 (which was the MVA for the area) and decided to engage the AP to review an approach plate. I was slightly above 5,100 at the time - probably 5,120 or 5,140. 5,100 was already dialed into the altitude field. I hit the VS button to engage the altitude. The button turned green, the VS field on the display went to -500, and the ALT button turned blue. I turned my attention to the approach plate, and when I looked back I was at 4,950 and descending. On a more recent VFR flight I tried to repeat this scenario - at 14,500 feet but otherwise similar. I found that most of the time the descent (or ascent if I was slightly below) stopped at 14,500 but about one time in 20 the AP would go right through the altitude. Is my procedure correct here? My understanding is that if I hit the ALT button, the AP will just hold my current altitude - even if its not quite what is dialed in, so I have been using either the IAS button or VS button to engage the AP to hold the set altitude. Is this the right procedure? Is there a better way to command the AP to hold the set altitude when you are slightly off from it? Has anyone else seen this behavior? Edited by billd17 - 10 Sep 2019 at 6:18pm

AviSteve Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 12 Feb 2018 Location: Melbourne, FL Status: Offline Points: 2249	Post Options Post Reply Quote AviSteve Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 2:18pm
	Your thinking is correct, but the altitude differences aren't significant enough to meet the practical criteria for capturing a new altitude. When you press VS, ALT will be armed (as you know). But, there's a short delay after pressing VS to allow you to adjust the altitude target, if desired. If that delay were not implemented, then if you decided to change altitudes, then pressed VS, the system would immediately capture the current target and go directly to ALT mode. We suspect that you were just on the edge where the autopilot thought that you really did want to capture the same altitude, but you were close enough to escape the 10 foot capture band within that suppression time frame. When you're pretty close to the target altitude, as in this scenario, our suggestion is to just press ALT to hold the current altitude rather than VS to close the minimal gap.
	Steve Lindsley Avidyne Engineering