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    Posted: 11 Feb 2018 at 7:38pm
In the "Anybody home" thread, our new oracle Kelly made the following statement:
Quote It would be great to start a new thread of conversation with a specific topic you want covered. There are a lot of topics here making it almost impossible to read all of them.


I think that's fair.  There certainly is a lot of material here, and its not as if I went back through all of it when I joined.  In the spirit of cooperation, I am starting this thread so that members can post links to threads they think will provide Kelly (and by proxy, Avidyne) with our most important customer feedback.  I will collect a few personal favorites and post the links for her here.


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Suggestions for 10.2.1.0
 http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1256&title=suggestions-for-10210

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End of Summer
http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=757&title=ok-nearly-end-of-summer

Sorry about the length of this one Kelly, but it will give you some insight into the state of the community.


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Originally posted by DavidBunin DavidBunin wrote:

Suggestions for 10.2.1.0
 http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1256&title=suggestions-for-10210

For a full description of this suggestion, this is a better link:
http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1140&KW=Alternative&title=alternate-flight-plan-in-the-ifd-fms

I do not want this capability added to the IFDs, and feel strongly that it would actually be detrimental and possibly a safety of flight issue.  See my full comments at the link I provided above. 
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Originally posted by DavidBunin DavidBunin wrote:

Seattle Avionics as a potential database supplier
http://forums.avidyne.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1410&title=seattle-avionics-alternative-to-jeppesen

A second vendor may not be the panacea it appears to be and may just have unintended consequences.

See my comments at the above link.
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Originally posted by DavidBunin DavidBunin wrote:

I think that's fair.  There certainly is a lot of material here, and its not as if I went back through all of it when I joined.  In the spirit of cooperation, I am starting this thread so that members can post links to threads they think will provide Kelly (and by proxy, Avidyne) with our most important customer feedback.  I will collect a few personal favorites and post the links for her here.

I really don’t think gee-whiz enhancements or “nice to haves” should be the priority for Avidyne resources at this time.  They should be focused on bug fixes, working on feature commitments, and making folks whole who were promised capabilities and even paid money in advance. 

Also, many requests have no way to be prioritized based on knowing the level of need or support within the Avidyne customer base.  They are many times individual musings.

I have responded to two of your favorites.
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I'll take another swing at the horse I've been beating.

Stop combining waypoints in the FPL, this causes problems particularly when approaches have the same hold and IAF waypoint.  This is the only safety of flight concern that I know of.

I would also like to have the Avidyne Plantain.  Orest - you are welcome!
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Thank you on plantain! (Boeing banana for the new folks, search on that)

I entirely concur on not combining multiple instances of waypoints together, like the FAF and missed hold point on opposing ILS/LOC approaches, when you entered them sequentially. You should allow multiple instances of the same waypoint, just add a spacing gap between each.

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Fully agree regarding multiple instances of waypoint being allowed.
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With respect to combining waypoints, while there are legitimate reasons for the current design, we understand and agree that there are cases where it doesn't work out as you would expect.  We do not agree that it is a safety of flight issue, but we are actively working on a change that I think will address the issues and make the flight plan reflect the way that a pilot actually thinks about it.  I can't say what release it will be in, but it is a known, high-priority item on the list that's getting my personal attention.

Orest, I know you've been the plantain champion for a long time and, rest assured, we haven't been ignoring your pleas.  Indeed it was there in R9, but was based on the autopilot preselect altitude.  When the IFD-series came along, we didn't have access to that altitude value, so we disabled it.  However, as you've suggested, we could base it on the next altitude constraint in the flight plan after the active leg.  In software and in official documentation, we still call it "Range to Altitude Arc", but in conversation we always refer to it as "the banana", in your honor :)  Look for it in 10.2.1!

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Are you saying Orest can stop asking for it now??
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Someone call an ambulance - Orest is going to faint!

Seriously, it is great to see Avidyne implementing features suggested by readers.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

In software and in official documentation, we still call it "Range to Altitude Arc", but in conversation we always refer to it as "the banana", in your honor :)  Look for it in 10.2.1!


Outstanding! Call it what you will, as long as it's there!

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Is there any effort being made to port the IFD100 to Android, or is that idea dead?
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

With respect to combining waypoints, while there are legitimate reasons for the current design, we understand and agree that there are cases where it doesn't work out as you would expect.  We do not agree that it is a safety of flight issue, but we are actively working on a change that I think will address the issues and make the flight plan reflect the way that a pilot actually thinks about it.


So we are on the same page, the IFD automatically combining waypoints can result in it removing the missed approach hold for the approach you are flying.  I provided an example where it replaced the missed approach hold with a HILPT of a subsequent approach, which looked similar to the missed that it deleted (to me this is dangerous because its easy not to realize the change), but it was on the wrong heading and 1500 feet lower than the missed hold you should have been flying.

Because the hold/heading altitude were valid for the HILPT, you wouldn't hit a mountain, but you wouldn't be where ATC is expecting you to be for traffic separation.  The IFD providing guidance that doesn't match the published approaches is what I consider a safety of flight issue.   Do you not agree?
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Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

Is there any effort being made to port the IFD100 to Android, or is that idea dead?

I hope not, I'm still hoping for it.
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Originally posted by brou0040 brou0040 wrote:

Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

Is there any effort being made to port the IFD100 to Android, or is that idea dead?

I hope not, I'm still hoping for it.

Since Avidyne has a lot of other projects going on I hope they don't waste one minute on duplicating efforts developing and supporting the IFD100 on another platform. The IFD100 has been out a year, has had some updates and works very well. 

They never promised it on the other platform. We all realize that there was some talk about another company doing that for them, but it's a free app. Why would they spend more money on something they already have and are getting zero revenue on?

If the IFD100 is important to you spend $200-$300 on a refurbished iPad and you are all set - problem solved. (https://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad)



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I would still like an answer to my question.
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Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

I would still like an answer to my question.

Exactly.

It's easy to tell others to buy another piece of hardware when you are already supported.  I personally think that supporting Android will bring IFD sales because it falls in line with their overall philosophy of being open and an alternate to the big guy.
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Originally posted by brou0040 brou0040 wrote:

Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

I would still like an answer to my question.

Exactly.

It's easy to tell others to buy another piece of hardware when you are already supported.  I personally think that supporting Android will bring IFD sales because it falls in line with their overall philosophy of being open and an alternate to the big guy.

I bought an iPad mini after the IFD100 came out - that's why I am supported.


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Can we change the forum software so that Orest's flair reads "Plantain Champion" instead of "Senior Member"? Asking for a friend.
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Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

[QUOTE=brou0040]...

I bought an iPad mini after the IFD100 came out - that's why I am supported.

I finally brought one of those iThingies into the house. My wife just shook her head, my son registered disapproval.

It sits in my flightbag, an expensive single purpose bit of hardware -- but not the only one in aviation. It was when FF started providing Jepp plates within their app together with IFD support (and they will NEVER go android), the probable exit of Jepp from the EFB market, and then the passing interest of running the IFD100, that all drove me to it.

I would still like to see the android version of the IFD100, but recognize it has to compete with other improvements.

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Originally posted by MysticCobra MysticCobra wrote:

Is there any effort being made to port the IFD100 to Android, or is that idea dead?

I wouldn't say that the idea of an Android IFD-100 is dead, but I wouldn't look for it anytime soon.  Purely a function of available resource prioritization, there is currently no effort being expended on it.

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Originally posted by brou0040 brou0040 wrote:

Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

With respect to combining waypoints, while there are legitimate reasons for the current design, we understand and agree that there are cases where it doesn't work out as you would expect.  We do not agree that it is a safety of flight issue, but we are actively working on a change that I think will address the issues and make the flight plan reflect the way that a pilot actually thinks about it.


So we are on the same page, the IFD automatically combining waypoints can result in it removing the missed approach hold for the approach you are flying.  I provided an example where it replaced the missed approach hold with a HILPT of a subsequent approach, which looked similar to the missed that it deleted (to me this is dangerous because its easy not to realize the change), but it was on the wrong heading and 1500 feet lower than the missed hold you should have been flying.

Because the hold/heading altitude were valid for the HILPT, you wouldn't hit a mountain, but you wouldn't be where ATC is expecting you to be for traffic separation.  The IFD providing guidance that doesn't match the published approaches is what I consider a safety of flight issue.   Do you not agree?

We understand the issue; some effects are worse than others.  We ask continued patience and believe that you'll be pleased with the changes being implemented.
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Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

I bought an iPad mini after the IFD100 came out - that's why I am supported.

I too was hoping for IFD100 Android support.  But, I went to the dark side and bought the iPAD Mini even before my IFD installation was completed.  I considered the IFD100 a “must have”.  My aversion to Apple was assuaged by the IFD100 capabilities, flawless operation, and outstanding screen resolution.  The iPAD does what it does very well, and I can use it for other aviation apps as well.  Despite my early angst, I am happy to have it.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by brou0040 brou0040 wrote:

Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

With respect to combining waypoints, while there are legitimate reasons for the current design, we understand and agree that there are cases where it doesn't work out as you would expect.  We do not agree that it is a safety of flight issue, but we are actively working on a change that I think will address the issues and make the flight plan reflect the way that a pilot actually thinks about it.


So we are on the same page, the IFD automatically combining waypoints can result in it removing the missed approach hold for the approach you are flying.  I provided an example where it replaced the missed approach hold with a HILPT of a subsequent approach, which looked similar to the missed that it deleted (to me this is dangerous because its easy not to realize the change), but it was on the wrong heading and 1500 feet lower than the missed hold you should have been flying.

Because the hold/heading altitude were valid for the HILPT, you wouldn't hit a mountain, but you wouldn't be where ATC is expecting you to be for traffic separation.  The IFD providing guidance that doesn't match the published approaches is what I consider a safety of flight issue.   Do you not agree?

We understand the issue; some effects are worse than others.  We ask continued patience and believe that you'll be pleased with the changes being implemented.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you have in mind.  If you can say, is this something in the next major build or is the list for beyond that?
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Originally posted by brou0040 brou0040 wrote:

Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by brou0040 brou0040 wrote:

Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

With respect to combining waypoints, while there are legitimate reasons for the current design, we understand and agree that there are cases where it doesn't work out as you would expect.  We do not agree that it is a safety of flight issue, but we are actively working on a change that I think will address the issues and make the flight plan reflect the way that a pilot actually thinks about it.


So we are on the same page, the IFD automatically combining waypoints can result in it removing the missed approach hold for the approach you are flying.  I provided an example where it replaced the missed approach hold with a HILPT of a subsequent approach, which looked similar to the missed that it deleted (to me this is dangerous because its easy not to realize the change), but it was on the wrong heading and 1500 feet lower than the missed hold you should have been flying.

Because the hold/heading altitude were valid for the HILPT, you wouldn't hit a mountain, but you wouldn't be where ATC is expecting you to be for traffic separation.  The IFD providing guidance that doesn't match the published approaches is what I consider a safety of flight issue.   Do you not agree?

We understand the issue; some effects are worse than others.  We ask continued patience and believe that you'll be pleased with the changes being implemented.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you have in mind.  If you can say, is this something in the next major build or is the list for beyond that?

It's something that I hope to get into the next major release and I'm working hard to make that happen.  However, the changes cut pretty deep into the flight planning software, so there will be tons of testing required before we release it.  Whether it actually makes it into the next major release will depend a lot on the timing of that release.
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Steve,
On the MAP page, both RH concentric knobs do the same thing (map range), would it be possible to have the large knob control the range and the small knob scroll the Datablock? It is sometimes hard to scroll with touch screen without selecting or changing the content.  That seems like a minor change with user interface and doubt it would require extensive testing.
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A good suggestion.

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Originally posted by Ibraham Ibraham wrote:

Steve,
On the MAP page, both RH concentric knobs do the same thing (map range), would it be possible to have the large knob control the range and the small knob scroll the Datablock? It is sometimes hard to scroll with touch screen without selecting or changing the content.  That seems like a minor change with user interface and doubt it would require extensive testing.
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Sounds like a good idea to me.  Simple, and doesn't add complexity like some other suggestions would, since those unaware of the added feature won't potentially be tripped up or confused by it.
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I like that suggestion!

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Originally posted by Ibraham Ibraham wrote:

Steve,
On the MAP page, both RH concentric knobs do the same thing (map range), would it be possible to have the large knob control the range and the small knob scroll the Datablock? It is sometimes hard to scroll with touch screen without selecting or changing the content.  That seems like a minor change with user interface and doubt it would require extensive testing.
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Don't let this discourage anybody from continuing to submit ideas, but I don't think this one will happen.  We strive to keep the user interface simple, and consistency is the key to simplicity.  The design philosophy of the concentric knobs is that they perform one function, the outer knob is "coarse" control, and the inner knob is "fine" control.  In this case, there really is no distinction between coarse and fine control, but we don't want to violate the idea that the knob performs one function.  I'm pretty sure that we've kept that consistency throughout the entire system so far, but if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will point out the case -- not that an existing violation would make us want to make another one :)

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Steve,

I would say that Avidyne has already "broken" that philosophy.  For one thing, having the small knob scroll the data block has been a requested feature here in the forums more than once, with what appeared to be positive acceptance from the company.

Also, if the Winds Aloft data is being presented, then the knobs already do two different things.  The big knob zooms the map, and the small knob runs through the W-A altitudes.

Given that the "one thing" precedent has already fallen away, I would add my voice to the chorus requesting that the small knob scroll the data blocks.

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Steve,

On the FMS page, both knobs scroll the flight plan, to zoom the FMS FPL MAP view you must use touch screen. If on both the MAP and FMS/FPL screens, have one of the knobs to zoom and the other one to scroll, that way it will be same on both pages and provide more consistency. I keep trying to use the small knob to scroll the datablock on the map page!

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Originally posted by Ibraham Ibraham wrote:

Steve,

On the FMS page, both knobs scroll the flight plan, to zoom the FMS FPL MAP view you must use touch screen. If on both the MAP and FMS/FPL screens, have one of the knobs to zoom and the other one to scroll, that way it will be same on both pages and provide more consistency. I keep trying to use the small knob to scroll the datablock on the map page!

Ibrahim
No thank you!  That suggestion for the FMS/FPL Tab removes a key and important functionality, the ability to move around within a FP Block.  That affects selecting approaches, crossing restrictions, waypoints, and approach charts.  One knob is course, selecting data blocks, the other is fine, selecting options within the datablock.  This is important functionality, if removed, would damage the user interface and take away a feature, which makes the IFD such a great product.  And if you had one knob scroll both among and within datablocks, you would get nowhere fast trying to make a change to a flight plan.  I think the current setup is elegant and well thought out.

Can someone tell me what Datablocks get changed on the MAP/MAP TAB when they are touched during scrolling?  The only one I can think of is the Traffic Thumbnail range.  I must be missing others to have this be a concern.

Bob
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There is another where you can select a waypoint within a datablocks and it will give you distance time and bearing.
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Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

There is another where you can select a waypoint within a datablocks and it will give you distance time and bearing.
I searched through the datablock options and found "Designated Waypoint".  That's a nice option I hadn't used.  Thanks!  That makes two.

Any others that folks can point out?
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Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

When can we get the Visual Approach like Garmin has?
Similar capability is on our radar, but no ETA yet.
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I updated my IFD440 today and all went well. Page 9, for/loc/gs 429, of configuration now offers format selection. It defaulted to VHF429. Should it remain or be changed?
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Originally posted by bobcain bobcain wrote:

I updated my IFD440 today and all went well. Page 9, for/loc/gs 429, of configuration now offers format selection. It defaulted to VHF429. Should it remain or be changed?

Bob,
You'll want to leave this set to VHF429.  The other setting is for future additions.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

When can we get the Visual Approach like Garmin has?
Similar capability is on our radar, but no ETA yet.

Yes please. My home field has no approach slope lights, so night ops are always a little more fun there than they need to be.
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Originally posted by paulr paulr wrote:

Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by LANCE LANCE wrote:

When can we get the Visual Approach like Garmin has?
Similar capability is on our radar, but no ETA yet.

Yes please. My home field has no approach slope lights, so night ops are always a little more fun there than they need to be.

It will be nice to see an IAN-like facility for such instances, but you can do this now with the Boeing Banana, together with the VSR and distance to airport datablocks. Pilots have been using this to assist flying CDAPs for a long time.

Start your descent form a height appropriate for the descent profile (3*, 4*, whatever) and then just set your target altitude as 100ft AGL for your field, and then adjust your descent to put the banana on the end of the runway.

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Orest,

Since you are the proud father of the banana, would you post a picture of it on the Avidyne screen?
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Originally posted by ddgates ddgates wrote:

Orest,

Since you are the proud father of the banana, would you post a picture of it on the Avidyne screen?

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Originally posted by ddgates ddgates wrote:

Orest,

Since you are the proud father of the banana, would you post a picture of it on the Avidyne screen?

One shot in the link above, I also posted some simulator shots in another thread and just added in some RW panel shots.


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