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    Posted: 14 Jun 2019 at 3:01pm
is anyone seeing connection or flight plan transfer issues with WiFi between an IFD440/540 10.2.3.1 and FlyQ EFB after the update?
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I have updated to v10.2.3.1, but even though I have FlyQ, I have been hesitant to try flight-plan transfers until Seattle Avionics announces a bug fix... Prior to v10.2.3.1, downloading from IFD to FlyQ just wiped out the FlyQ flight plan, and uploading of flight plan didn't work.

Have been using FF for seamless flightplan transfers... but will try FlyQ transfer on next flight just to see.... I am skeptical though.

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I also use FlyQ and have had problems with the WiFi connection after updating to 10.2.3.1.  Both of my iPads and iPhone show the IFD 540 WiFI connected in the settings but FlyQ keep connecting and disconnecting every several seconds and FlyQ is no longer able to received a GPS signal from the IFD540. I also am no longer able to receive a GPS signal on WingX or Fltpln GO.

In addition,  prior to 10.2.3.1 I have never been able to displays traffic only WX on FlyQ . My Transponder/ADS-B unit is a GTX345.  I know its not FlyQ or my devices as both of my iPads and iPhone work perfectly in a friends airplane equipped with a IFD540 and GTX345.

I have been working with Avidyne Tech support for 6 month...no joy.
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same challenge
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FlyQ will not work on the same WIFI connection with IFD540. It will constantly disconnect and reconnect. 
This is a known bug with Seattle Avionics. 
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I was able to successfully connect FlyQ to the IFD540's WiFi network and use the app for navigation and WX prior to updating to 10.2.3.1
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Sorry for any mis information.
To clarify, I was referring to setting the Avidyne to remote connecting to a third party WIFI with both the Avidyne and the FlyQ connecting to the WIFI source. 
Per my understanding Seattle avionics FlyQ does not like to play nice with others. It will constantly disconnect and re-connect in this scenario.

I have always used IFD100 to connect and work with the panel mount units it just seems the best way for flight plans, control, data transfer etc. 
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Originally posted by Zeddy Zeddy wrote:

I was able to successfully connect FlyQ to the IFD540's WiFi network and use the app for navigation and WX prior to updating to 10.2.3.1
Same with me.
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Originally posted by Cruiser Cruiser wrote:

Sorry for any mis information.
To clarify, I was referring to setting the Avidyne to remote connecting to a third party WIFI with both the Avidyne and the FlyQ connecting to the WIFI source. 
Per my understanding Seattle avionics FlyQ does not like to play nice with others. It will constantly disconnect and re-connect in this scenario.

I have always used IFD100 to connect and work with the panel mount units it just seems the best way for flight plans, control, data transfer etc. 

I’m referring to just a standard WiFi connection to the avidyne IFD.

It worked great prior to the update.  The point of my post was to ascertain whether I should contact Seattle Avionics to report the “new behavior.”

The IFD100 app is OK, but it doesn’t hold a candle to an actual EFB, like FlyQ, which has a full library of charts, overlays, full flight planning features, publications library, powerful optimized routing capability, better user interface, split screen capability, synthetic vision display, built in TAWS displays, TFR displays, robust weather displays... shall I go on?

I’m happy that avidyne provides a free app to interface with the IFD and also glad you find it useful- but my question is about what other FlyQ users are seeing since the software update.
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I wasn't aware of any issues induced by 10.2.3.1 with respect to FlyQ, but we'll check it out.  I hesitate to blame FlyQ right away.  It seems a little too coincidental that these reports started occurring after an IFD update.  As usual, the changes in 10.2.3.1 *shouldn't* have had any impact to FlyQ, but you know how that goes.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

I wasn't aware of any issues induced by 10.2.3.1 with respect to FlyQ, but we'll check it out.  I hesitate to blame FlyQ right away.  It seems a little too coincidental that these reports started occurring after an IFD update.  As usual, the changes in 10.2.3.1 *shouldn't* have had any impact to FlyQ, but you know how that goes.

Thanks!  For the record- my ifd100 app seems to work just fine after the update, but FlyQ is continuously connecting and disconnecting itself every 5-10 seconds.  It’s also only showing that it’s connected to ads-b now- not avidyne IFD, like it should be.  I’ve reached out to Seattle Avionics customer support over this as well.  Please let me know if you need any additional details.  
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This is what Seattle avionics sent to me about the problem I have not tried it yet

Here's the required iPad configuration to optimize performance on the next flight.

  1. Verify iOS is up-to-date. (12.3.1)
  2. Verify FlyQ EFB is up-to-date. (3.3.1)
  3. Close/Exit/Quit all open apps. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201330
  4. Reboot iOS device. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201559
  5. iPad Settings app = Airplane Mode= ON
  6. iPad Settings app = Bluetooth = OFF
  7. iPad Settings app = Cellular Data = OFF (required, if equipped)
  8. iPad Settings app = Wi-Fi= ON
  9. iPad Settings app = Connect to IFD
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They sent me the same thing- I haven’t tried it yet either.  I have definitely been using Bluetooth while using the iPad (that’s what I’ve been streaming music into the cabin with)... maybe that’s the issue?  We’ll see!
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I tried the recommended procedure from Seattle Avionics, but it did not work for me.  It will be interesting to see if it does the trick for your installation.
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I executed the recommended procedure listed above today, and low and behold, everything worked (except the flight plan upload, which apparently is a known issue?).  

My guess is that by turning off the cellular, you disable the onboard iPad GPS, which is somehow conflicting with the avidyne position/Adsb.  Anyway- my iPad is no longer disconnecting and reconnecting every 5 seconds.  It’s now stably holding the connection and using the avidyne GPS source and passing adsb info.
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Great that the process worked for your iPad.  My IFD540 developed a problem where it would not boot up beyond the Avidyne logo and required a return to Avidyne.  Crossing my fingers that when it comes back all is as it should be!
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the saga continuous.

I flew yesterday and had the same problem with FlyQ again (showing ADS-B instead of avidyne connected, then connecting and disconnecting every 5 seconds).

I was able to get FlyQ to register the avidyne by disabling, then re-enabling the WiFi on the avidyne settings page, after accomplishing a full reset on the iPad (then following the suggested procedure on the iPad listed above by Seattle avionics).
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This is a follow-up to my previous post.  The IFD540 was returned from Avidyne for an unrelated issue and reinstalled.  The problem still exists with FlyQ cycling between "Avidyne connected" and "ADS-B connected" with both versions 3.2.1 and 4.0.  FlyQ is displaying traffic and WX, but GPS and traffic/WX updates are inconsistent due to cycling of the connection.

I opened a case with Seattle Avionics...hoping for a quick solution.
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I received the following response from Seattle Avionics about my inquiry:

"Sorry for any inconvenience. This is a known issue due to changes in the IFD firmware. We're working with their team on a solution for the next release. Everything else should work fine except flight plan two-way."

Hopefully it won't be months to release 4.X
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Zeddy -

I heard directly from Steve Podradchik on this that with FlyQ 4.0 and Avi v10.2.3.1, the FP transfer works from FlyQ up to IFD, but not yet down capability from IFD to FlyQ.

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Tom W.

Thanks for the info.

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A FlyQ beta is out:  Release notes WRT Avi:


AVIDYNE USERS:  Perhaps the most important fix in this release involves basic communication between FlyQ and Avidyne after the last Avidyne update.  This should restore FlyQ's ability to get position, AHRS, and ADS-B data from Avidyne as well as transfer flight plans from FlyQ to the IFD.  It does NOT fix long-standing issue with FP transfer from IFD to FlyQ but we plan to fix that in the 4.1 release (not 4.0.1).  Please test and let us know if the fix worked.

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Dave,

Interesting piece of news.  I've contacted SA and requested to be a beta tester.  I'll provided an update later.

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I flew with the Beta 1 version of 4.0.1 over the weekend and SA has fixed the communication issue with 10.2.3.1.  The WiFi connection was rock solid the entire 2 hr flight, no issues with traffic or WX, no crashes or malfunctions for the features I typically use. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote n7ifr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2019 at 10:54pm
Curious... I also downloaded the new FlyQ Beta v4.01 Beta-2 and still having problems uploading Flight Plans from FlyQ to IFD540.

I had to fall back to my FF to upload a FP with personal waypoints...

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I was successful in uploading a couple of flight plans from FlyQ to the IFD540 which I was not able to do before 4.0.1 beta 1.  I have updated to FlyQ 4.0.1 beta 2 and will fly again later this week.  I'll report my findings.
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SA said in one of their beta summaries last week that FP transfer wouldn't be fixed until v4.1, not 4.0.1.

They did say that they had fixed ads-b and gps iirc.


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David,
In a very recent email with SA (Steve P) SA insists that in the Beta v4.01.11, FP transfer is fixed one-way from FlyQ to IFD (not in reverse).

I complained that it is not working as recent as 2-days ago... but I was using a FP with User Wpts as well as the usual.  Steve P. suggested that maybe FP's with User Wpts might not work, but that Avidyne had tested FP's successfully from FlyQ uploaded to IFD.

Frustrating to think they hadn't thought of FP uploads with User Wpt... Most of my recent FP was Mountain Flying with Passes defined as WPTS...

Anyway, I will test a FP with "standard" Wpts next few days.

Are you back in HOT AZ?  We are up in KPSO-land till Semptmber.

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